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[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 97 points 3 weeks ago

Love it.

Steve Jobs once called the personal computer a bicycle for the mind; ChatGPT is a wheelchair for the mind. There is no shame in using a wheelchair if you need one, but if you don’t need one and use one anyway, you will come to need it.

[-] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say chatgpt is more like a self-driving tesla stuck in huge traffic. you don't have any control, it can break down easily, you're moving slower than a bike, all the while thinking that people who chose the bike to avoid the traffic are losers.

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago

Steve Jobs also thought eating fruit could cure cancer...

[-] amino 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

this metaphor is ableist because nobody is pushing wheelchair use on abled people, unlike ChatGPT. and no, abled people won't become "dependent" on wheelchairs because they'll realize how miserable life is when you're barred from most public establishments.

most of the people perceived as "faking it" are just disabled people who can't afford a diagnosis or won't be diagnosed by medics due to racism, fatphobia, etc.

[-] Balerion6@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But if you start consistently using a wheelchair when there is no physical reason for you to use one, will your muscles not atrophy, thereby making you need it?

I don't think this metaphor is inherently ableist. That wheelchairs aren't being pushed onto anyone isn't really relevant, nor is the fact that very few people fake needing a wheelchair. I don't think the person you replied to was shaming anyone for "faking it." Just saying that if you don't need a wheelchair, it's probably a bad idea to use one.

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[-] Balerion6@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Damn, that's a good metaphor. Gonna steal that for myself.

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[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 3 weeks ago

Your Brain on ChatGPT

…LLM users displayed the weakest connectivity. Cognitive activity scaled down in relation to external tool use... LLM users also struggled to accurately quote their own work. While LLMs offer immediate convenience, our findings highlight potential cognitive costs. Over four months, LLM users consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels.

Outsourcing thinking from your brain to an AI literally makes you dumber, less confident in the output, and teaches you nothing.

Call me a Luddite or a hater, but if you’re one of the people who uses AI as a shortcut to actual thought or learning, I will judge you and disregard your output and opinions. Form your own basis of understanding and knowledge instead of a teaspoon deep summary that is frequently incorrect.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

They say that, when making an Anki deck, using it is only half the battle because a lot of the learning comes from the act of making it yourself. That advice is older than these LLMs and it really showcases a big reason why they suck. Personally, I haven’t even used autocorrect since 2009.

Being a luddite I feel requires having a highly abstinence-only approach. Knowing what is worth off-loading and what is worth doing yourself is just being smart. I’m really glad that I don’t need to know every detail of modern life but I still take a lot of pride in knowing how quite a lot of it works.

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[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I remembered a movie about the future where some guy couldn't figure out how to insert the right shape into a hole and he tried to insert a cube into a round hole, I don't remember exactly, but it's not so funny when it becomes reality... In any case, due to excessive comfort or convenience, the human brain, so to speak, adapts in the bad sense of the word to what is easier.

[-] Sergio@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

remembered a movie about the future where some guy couldn’t figure out how to insert the right shape into a hole

Idiocracy - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

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[-] ElfWord@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is such a weird take.

Oh poor baby, you need a wittle spell check to make sure you don't mess up the words in your important email?

Oh little loser, you gotta have an automatic transmission to make the car go vroom vroom?

Oh Mr. has-a-life, you have to pull out Shazam instead of knowing 8 million songs by heart?

All of us use technology to make our lives easier, to supplement skills we don't want to sink perfectionist-level time into, to enjoy "good enough" results in one area or another.

This kind of holier-than-thou hyperbolic snobbery does nothing to generate actual thoughtful reflection of where to draw the line with technology dependence and only distracts and detracts from actually good critiques of generative AI's ethics and other negative effects. I wish this sub didn't allow low-effort meme posts because it's such a brain rot circle-jerk.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

You said something here that is pertinent, but also revealing. We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it? The automatic transmission cited above allowed anyone with a pulse the ability to get behind the wheel of a car rather than putting in any effort to acquire the skill to operate a motor vehicle. Great for the people who built our car-ciety, we have all suffered for it, including inaccessible essential services w/o one and getting stuck in traffic caused in the most part by people who should never be behind a wheel of a car. Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art? Cause we've got that now. Great...

[-] vorpuni@jlai.lu 21 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think automatic transmissions are in any way responsible for car centric urban planning, Europe has plenty of it and the transition to automatics is very slow and quite recent.

I agree far too many people are allowed to drive when they shouldn't but people dying on the road is more socially acceptable than stringent standards for being allowed to operate lethal machines at insanely high speeds (in terms of kinetic energy at least).

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[-] ElfWord@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it?

🙄 Yes. If you disagree with something this obvious, please write me a lengthy letter explaining why and send it by horse & buggy mail carrier. I promise, I'll read and respond just as soon as I'm able.

Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art?

🤮🤮🤮 Maybe we should require an intelligence test before allowing people to post their opinions on the internet too? Or have children?

If you actually think that disallowing some people to create art because they aren't "good enough," then you aren't really defending art or artists at all.

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[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The loss of skill requirements within trades and crafts is likely a major factor in the cascades of ineptitude we experience in our society. The barriers to entry also directly benefitted the quality of those spaces, and naturally flagged the incompetent (if you are incompetent and lack spell check, your mis-spellings served as a demonstration that you are not a skilled writer. Same for driving, musical recognition, engineering as well).

We've seen a clear decline in the general quality of all products, and I can't help but feel that the automation of skill is directly connected to that decline. This tweet seems to mirror that sentiment in its mockery. You don't have to think anymore about pretty much any of the process, you just get an output you can ship immediately. So it goes without saying that you can be without any skill and still have a footprint within spaces you have no merit to be in.

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[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think the tweet is about technology in general. It is specifically targeting one technology, so I don't think it impedes "thoughtful reflection of where to draw the line with technology dependence." There are good uses of AI, certainly. Replacing the human effort necessary for art and writing, though, are definitely not good uses. A big part of what makes art important is that it is effortful - that is why people react so negatively to some postmodern and modern art that doesn't look like it took great skill to make. As for writing - the only point of writing an essay is to achieve human-to-human connection. Using ChatGPT for stereo instructions is maybe inaccurate, but not bad in the way that using ChatGPT for an essay is bad. That is why the "do you need chat gpt to fuck your wife" zinger hits: you are replacing human interactions with some bullshit gadget.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 11 points 3 weeks ago

and only distracts and detracts from actually good critiques

No, it doesn't. You just want to be able to pick from your buffet of cake flavors without it being morally complicated. Gen AI is demon technology made by demons, and those demons deserve mockery and ridicule. It should be impolite to be this anti-social.

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[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The goddamn meta commercial where the dad is asking, "meta, how do I get my toddler to eat breakfast" makes me wants to implode every fucking time. Like you can't feed your kid?

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

where the fuck are meta commercials popping up

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[-] monotremata@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 weeks ago

"If only I'd programmed the robot to be more careful what I wished for. Robot, experience this tragic irony for me!"

[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I delivered pizza during COVID and most people I worked with couldn't follow simple directions to an address or read a road map. If a destination didn't show up on their cellphone's navigation then they were immediately and hopelessly lost.

If you don't use and exercise your brain then it atrophies and dies. AI is going turn a lot of people into conscious vegetables.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

We need to teach people curiosity. I use my GPS all the time because of construction and stuff but I also look at the route before I leave so that I know where I’m headed on my own, too. Meanwhile I know people who’ve lived in a city for decades and still can’t get around it without help.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 35 points 3 weeks ago

Watch Wall-e to remind society how lazy and dependent on AI can end up.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago

I will honestly not be surprised if in a few years we have young to middle aged people who have become so dependent on "AI" that they'll be forced into assisted living homes because they are unable to function without it.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 3 weeks ago

Ehhhh. Sorta? Not in the way that I think you think. This will be a thing, but it'll be for people who were otherwise mentally disabled.

You'd be surprised the mental diversity of adults, especially in the US. Like apparently some fraction of adults with a whole number on the denominator are functionally illiterate, yet they don't need assisted living homes.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 weeks ago

Can it maybe just give her an orgasm for me? I'm way to lazy to do it myself.

/it's sarcasm, you dumb fuck

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 3 weeks ago

Let's be honest though if there were sex bots AI would be even more popular than it already is

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[-] msage@programming.dev 12 points 3 weeks ago

They will monetize those chatbots.

And I want to see how many will pull out their wallet when it happens.

And I worry it will be almost every hardcore user, for the fear of being left out and performing worse than anyone else.

The trap is set, it has sprung, and now we wait will the owner comes for the feast.

[-] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 11 points 3 weeks ago

They will monetize those chatbots.

They already did? They have premium plans, pro plans, free plans, etc.

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure it's a repost, but i always love to see it lol

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

I almost spit out my breakfast in laughter. Thanks for this one, OP. 😂

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Well yeah I don't know how to make pictures myself so yeah

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