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I think a Linux focused community is an odd place for this topic.
Hm iznt linux about freedom..? So can you sugest more suitable comunity for this kind of topic?
There is many type of freedom. Linux creators has no public opinions on freefom of sperch. Asklemmy can work for this question
You're free to say whatever you want. Platforms are also free to not rebroadcast your speech. Both statements can be true.
Well if you mean delete my speach by not broadcust that is directly braking free speach so…
On most platforms, you were never promised "free speech" or entitled to it.
Yes you are, they are advertising their platforms like you are free to comment anything and most people beleave that. Ask anyone if they think youtube will delete their commen even if they didnt offend anyone and they will tell you no way! So people definitly think that you are free to say anything freely, while you are actualy not. Meaby the sites have it vriten in small letters somwhere deep beried in papers but thats obviusly not clear to people. And its beried on purpose. If they are more clear with that people would searc for another platform that wont do that.
Yes you are, they are advertising their platforms like you are free to comment anything and most people beleave that.
I hate to break it to you, that's your fault for making an assumption (and a bold one at that) or you're just quite naive. Most places that you sign up for will either have you agree to a Terms of Service, or they'll make you agree to the rules. I have even more bad news for you: Advertisements usually try their best to show only the "good" of what is being advertised (such as how an advertisement for a toy doesn't usually make it very clear that batteries are required to use it).
Ask anyone if they think youtube will delete their commen even if they didnt offend anyone and they will tell you no way!
No, they might be angry that their comment was removed, but it's a pretty common understanding that moderators will remove content at their discretion, even if people don't necessarily agree with the decision.
I'm not sure why I'm even engaging in this, usually it's pretty clear when someone gets upset that their "free speech" (that they were never entitled to) is being violated that their intent is to spread hateful content.
Perhaps that isn't you, but nonetheless that is the group you're putting yourself in (even if unintentionally) whenever you ride under that banner.
It would also be worthwhile double checking what actual "Freedom of Speech" is and what it covers. Assuming you are referring to the US' first amendment, it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone other than you and the government (and even then it has its bounds).
As an example, let's say you're a writer for a newspaper. The government cannot take down an article that you write in which you criticize them (because that would fall under protected speech, unless you are making direct threats towards someone), but your boss could absolutely say "No way, we're not publishing that" as they are not a government official.
This doesn't even just include "Freedom of Speech", as another example, with the right to assembly you can publicly assemble and protest the government - but it wouldn't allow you to start a protest on someone's private property.
That is not true.
Okay, who is promising you free speech then?
It's mostly the people, not the services themselves. I guess the services don't want to look anti-democracy and toxic lol. They have the "it's fine unless I disagree" philosophy while promoting various "freedoms" (often including freedom of speech) which is definitely not meant for establishing literal minority supremacy.
I don't even see a reason for proving this tbh. It's something you have to see yourself to be sure and from my experience people who don't see it are just highly delusional and deranged or something from that category. People that I know personally and that don't struggle with severe mental illnesses (as those can cause comprehension issues obviously) do see this problem btw.
Yeah, the internet is not the public space it used to be. A lot of sites act as private spaces now.
Yea thats what im thinking also..
That was the big problem on sites like Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit. They advertise themselves as a public square. Then they would censor speech in various ways unknown to the speaker. A lot of people in this thread don't understand that. In case you are not familiar, sounds like you are, Martin v. City of Struthers (1943). I know these sites aren't just U.S. citizens, so a lot of the comments come from foreigners who only familiar with their limited freedoms their government allows them.
I agree. Freedom of speech doesn't exist on the "free" platforms. Nice to see that some sane people who notice it still exist.
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