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lemm.ee has shut down for good (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

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lemm.ee has shut down at 00:14 UTC.

unfortunately I realized too late that I have had hundreds of saved links to posts and comments from there, so I did not have enough time to save them, but anyways it is interesting that maybe a third of the post links I could try were dead. I think linkrot is happening much faster here than on reddit, even if just counting deleted posts.

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[-] inlandempire@jlai.lu 51 points 1 week ago

Goodbye ee

[-] iso@lemy.lol 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You were waiting for this one for a month, aren't you? :)

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 39 points 1 week ago

Deleting your account deletes your content, unlike deleting your Reddit account. Hence the linkrot.

I learnt pretty early on that saving posts using the save button was not a good way to save the information 😮‍💨

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

Not quite. If your comments federated out to an instance that either a) doesn’t get the delete request or b) ignores the delete request, your comments will very much stay out there in the fedeverse with not much you can do. Yes posts on the original instance may be gone, but anything that get pushed out via ActivityPub is a crap shoot.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 week ago

Yes with ActivityPub there's always failed federation. But Lemmy will send the delete request out when you delete your account. Other software or instances might not honour it, but the intent is there.

As opposed to reddit who do not remove comments when an account is deleted, only mark it as a comment from a deleted account.

I'm not against Lemmy's implementation, but it does require you to collect information you need at the time not assume it will always be there.

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[-] fakir@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago

Hello world, lemmee refugee here, & first post on piefed! I had exported my settings before the ship went down, figured we could import it in another instance to save my comments and communities, but I don't see any option to import here. Does piefed speak with Lemmy yet it's not part of Lemmy?

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago

Piefed speaks to Lemmy instances, yes.

You can import data here: https://piefed.social/user/settings/import_export

[-] k0mprssd@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago

🫡 you were good to us .ee, may you forever rest in peace.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

It was my first home. I thank them for bringing me in.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The content isn't gone.

It's still retained by the various instances that lemm.ee federated with, and entering the url of a lemm.ee post on those instances should still let you find their local copies if they have it.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

yeah but it turns out a lot of my lemm.ee links are not actually to content that's originating from there, but lemm.ee-view links for which if I search, there's no result.

Fortunately I also have the title and image permanently loaded for these links, so I can find them with some manual work

[-] Majestic@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

It'll be greatly missed. It was nice to have an instance with a reasonable defederation policy where I could interact with anyone basically.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

Nice for you, bad for the mods. Only way to do that without outsourcing mental strain to other people is to self host

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[-] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

Damn, since I saw the warning thread I was hurrying my slow ass to back up my stuff, which I gladly did (some days ago), lemmy.zip is my new home now.

I feel sorry for the users that didn't get the chance to backup their stuff... An auto backup feature for Lemmy backend might be worth checking out perhaps?

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[-] Aku@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

I was literally filling out an application for another server when it went down. Sad day.

Unfortunately I waited too long and now I can’t see my subs that I wanted to migrate.

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[-] uxellodunum@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A solution to this is Nostr. One identity across the entire network.

Twitter-like Platform/client dies overnight? No problem, all data still there.

Reddit-like platform/client dies overnight? No problem, all data still there.

PC dies overnight? No problem, all data still there.

Data is sync'd across multiple relays, you can run your own, and clients are interoperable.

It's my go-to now, for everything. A person's posts, their followers/audience, chats, etc never needs to be migrated.

Media is stored using the Blossom protocol which was created for Nostr.

V4V(Value 4 Value) is also a thing, so instead of just Likes/Reactions you can tip/Zap Sats (Bitcoin over Lightning) but that's optional.

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago

Centralised identity is something that Nostr does right. But it's got a nazi bar problem

[-] uxellodunum@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

It's not centralised though. It's quite decentralised actually.

As for your "nazi bar problem", I'd suggest you review the relays you connect to. That's the beauty of free speech, and power of choice.

[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 6 days ago

I think this is the only thing Nostr fixes. It has a lot of other issues, I feel which makes it difficult to scale. Like you can't block anyone, just mute. It's only the text that is distributed, media is still centralized, etc.. You cant stop someone from following you. Metadata about you gets leaked to the network like who you are muting. It doesn't work well if you use two different clients, like desktop and android.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

You just lost all the anticryptobros with that last sentence.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago

I think linkrot is happening much faster here than on reddit, even if just counting deleted posts.

Are you sure? Are lemm.ee posts showing as deleted for you? It looks like the copies of anything posted to lemm.ee still exist on the instances that it was federated with. Try this link !animation@lemm.ee, I am pretty sure it should still work on your instance.