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[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago

PET bottle recycling is the only part of plastics recycling that actually works. Making sure the bottle caps are also correctly returned to recycling plants is a good goal. Also it makes picking up litter a little easier, because now you only need to pick up one thing instead of two.

Btw, this is why clothing/bags/... made out of recycled plastic bottles is actually a terrible idea, because once the PET is out of the bottle recycling stream it is permanently removed from this recycling loop and new PET needs to be produced to compensate.

[-] Nariom@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

while i can appreciate the goal and potential result, those attached caps are terribly impractical, i wish they'd find a better solution

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Do you know that these caps can be overextended? They have a second open position, where they are opened at ~180°. At that position they don't flop back closed and are quite well out of the way.

[-] Nariom@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

nah they dont go far enough for my big nose and that makes it awkward and messy, may depend on the bottle and the nose i guess

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Overextend the cap and turn it so it goes sideways. It doesn't have to point at your nose at all.

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[-] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 252 points 4 days ago

That's an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

[-] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago

Littered bottle caps was a problem? Anyway, I hope they do cigarette filters next.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 17 points 3 days ago

The caps was a problem yes. Not just littering, but also in sorting for recycling, where they'd often end up in the wrong place.

It obviously depends on where and how it's done, but the thing I've heard is that due to (the lack of) weight and size the bottle caps would end up in the paper badges, which would ruin the paper from being recycled. It's better if it follows the bottle. PET bottles (including caps) are shredded, washed and used for new bottles.

Same thing happened to the pull tabs on aluminium cans. Those used to be separate too.

[-] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

I really like the can tabs. The plastic bottle caps annoy me because they make it harder to screw the cap back on. It needs a bit more innovation in my mind.

[-] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago

That’s an EU regulation, not a corporate measure. And it has drastically decreased the amount of littered bottle caps, so a good thing.

you should only be allowed to buy cigarettes if you can account for all your ciggy butts or pick-up an equal amount.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 10 points 3 days ago

In Australia they have something called "report a tosser" people who are proven to have littered anything from cigarette buds to plastic bottles and more will be fined to hell and back.

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[-] anzo@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago

Those float in the sea, we don't want that iiuc. Is a different plastic too, way more valuable from a recycling perspective (in Argentina hospitals used to collect caps to melt and make toys for childrens)

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

An EU regulation that was heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 43 points 4 days ago

Really? I never heard that before. What would they care about how their caps are? I can't see it having any impact on them at all. A lot of people got pissed about it when Coca Cola was one of the first to change the caps in line with the regulation, so if anything it hurt Coca Cola.

Also even though large corporations are almost always totally evil, it's not impossible for them to do something good as well. Probably not for the right reasons, but still, one thing doesn't exclude the other.

[-] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

It perpetuates the myth of recycling and puts the onus on the consumer and state to recycle instead of the corporations to stop using containers that pollute the environment, will be in the environment for decades without breaking down, and is likely causing yet unknown harm in our bodies since plastic is inside all of us now.

The first of the "3 R's" is reduce but instead of that being the focus because it hurts their bottom line, they prop up recycling and sell the lie that we can keep living as is if we just recycle more and get better at recycling.

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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

Can you show a link that supports that? Because I distinctly recall these companies opposing this measure.

[-] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

He can't because it's not true.

This is a EU regulation and it's a good one.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

The only thing I can find in this direction is a letter from beverage companies (including coca cola) opposing these measures. But that's based on a very shallow google search, so take it with a grain of salt. Where can I find info about what coca cola lobbied for or against?

[-] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

it costs coca cola more to produce those attached caps than not, are you saying coca cola was pushing for saving the environment? lol

It's an EU regulation meant to battle bottle caps being a major problem for marine wild life, where bigger sea mammals and fish swallow them and suffocate from it. Why are you lobbying for mega corporations willingly and for free? Did you hit your head as child one time too many?

[-] arc99@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I was interested in that whole ecoli eating plastic and producing 95% acetaminophen from it by mass. Maybe we can stop a lot of the plastic from water/soda bottles and just medicate ourselves till our livers shit themselves out our assholes.

Also it means recycle schemes get a % boost because a lot more bottles come back for recycling with their caps. I wouldn't be surprised if the cap is 10-20% of the total plastic in a bottle so caps were missing then that's wasted opportunity.

I remember as a kid when ring pulls on case used to detach and that's the same thing too. I remember my dad metal detecting on the beach and he'd recover dozens of ringpulls because people just tossed them.

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[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Real ones get their micro plastics by chewing on used car tires.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 52 points 4 days ago

I end up dribbling because the lid gets in my way, but it's fine because I'm helping to offset the pollution caused by a billionaire's private jet.

[-] hobovision@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago

If you keep pushing it further open it has a detent that will hold it open far enough that even my big nose won't touch it... It's an amazing design, better than a screw cap in every way. Well, at least the properly designed ones.

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[-] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I was handed a water bottle the.other day at a volunteer event and was lamenting the fact that in the US, we don't have attached caps. I almost immediately lost mine. It's possible to make them attached, AND not suck.

[-] arc99@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I don't know what % of plastic the cap comprises in a plastic bottle but I bet its double digits. So annoying as it is to use, attaching the cap to the bottle does make sense for recycling. It also lessens litter.

But it needs to be paired up with a deposit refund scheme. Lots of countries do this already and encourages circular economies - the soft drinks companies purchasing recycle material to reuse. I bet those schemes measured a significant jump in recovered plastic when virtually all the caps come back with the bottles.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago

Annoying? Am I the only one who thinks it's more convenient? The cap cannot fall, you can open it one handed, you cannot lose the cap...

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago

from what i can tell it's like half a percent of a percent of people who give a singular thought to it beyond "oh they changed it"

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[-] Zatore@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago

I like the convenience of not losing the cap

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 days ago

Easier to walk around with an open bottle too since you don't have to hold the cap or put it into your pocket

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 36 points 4 days ago

Even worse, "it's mildly annoying, so I don't wanna!" Ofc would be better if people didn't throw em away at all, But alas

[-] pixeltree 24 points 4 days ago

Attached cap prevents it from becoming a macroplastic

[-] edwardbear@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Conspiracy theory of mine - I’m European, so not sure if valid for the other side of the pond, but there was a massive campaign here to recycle the bottle caps by donating them for the creation of incubators for premature births. The local authorities placed massive donation boxes shaped like a heart and they were getting filled constantly.

Here’s the theory: When the campaign started getting up to speed, they started attaching the bottle caps to the bottle, because, I strongly believe, that out there, there is an absolute evil cunt who only feels something when a baby dies, so he wants fewer donated caps, because deep inside he knows people don’t care enough to snap the cap off.

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[-] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 10 points 3 days ago

Thanks for explaining, I was worried this was a band aid mesure which didn't solve to root cause. /s

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was interested in that whole ecoli eating plastic and producing 95% acetaminophen from it by mass. Maybe we can stop a lot of the plastic from water/soda bottles and just medicate ourselves till our livers shit themselves out our assholes.

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[-] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Hahehahahehhahahahahhrha I don’t know what a thing is for

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[-] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Simon Clark had a pretty good nuanced video on recycling and goes over plastics recycling in the latter parts of the video https://youtu.be/iOtrvBdRx8I

TL;DW Consider the environmental impact of systems over materials, most plastic doesn’t get recycled but some types of plastic are highly recyclable, existing plastic is undervalued, reduce > reuse > recycle.

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