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The people who voted for Zohran Mamdani are also taxpayers. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

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Someone PLEASE tell this woman🤦🤦🤦

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-25/wall-street-decries-hot-commie-summer-after-mamdani-surprise

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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 166 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am tired of the boomer narrative of that it's always those "young people" ruining everything. Oldest millennials are now in their mid-40's. Or even worse, the youngest gen-z people are almost 18 now. These people have been paying their taxes for years on end now.

The only terrified people in this scenario are the literal parasites who don't pay anything, through loopholes and theft

The lone defender of the billionaires at this point says everything we need to know

[-] Interstellar_1 6 points 1 month ago

[Gen-Z] the generation loosely being defined as people born around 1997 to 2012.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 78 points 1 month ago

They don't believe anyone under a certain income pays taxes. "Taxpayer" just means "upper income tax bracket" in their mind.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Oddly enough, when it comes to less dense suburbs with richer people in them, the cost to the city is always more than those people pay in taxes. They pay more but they’re actually using poorer people’s taxes to pay for their shitty “neighbourhoods”, in quotes because the word implies a level of community they could only dream of.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Also brown people don’t pay taxes in their fantasy world. It’s just another racist dog whistle.

[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

... people under a certain income level don't pay any taxes

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 month ago

They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there's also fees to use government services. That's all taxes.

But there's this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don't contribute to society, and so they don't think any of that counts.

[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Totally fair. I wasn't thinking about all the taxes the government steals from us, just the income tax

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago

Right, that's the point of the "taxpayer" dog whistle. It trains people to think that poor people don't pay taxes, and implies they're lesser members of society because of it.

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

taxes the government steals from us

No it's not the government that is stealing from us its the Uber wealthy that use our tax money (that should be going to the greater good of the citizens of the country) for their own gain.

[-] frezik 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So I'm aware there is a right-libertarian argument at work here that frames all taxes, always, as "stealing". However, there's an argument here that can be used along more democratic socialist lines.

Taxation in representative democracy is legitimate when the democracy itself lives up to the terms. We have come to some kind of consensus as a society on the level of taxation and where that money should go. When we do that, and we say the road is "our road", we mean that in a literal way. A part of the fruits of our labor were diverted to build that road, and we get a say in how it works.

The US is not a democracy that lives up to the term. "Taxation is theft" is correct in this context.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

As with everything context is key. Taxation is not inherently theft, but in the USA, it absolutely is.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're just stupid and meant folks who make millions and billions don't pay their share of taxes

[-] radix@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Even if you discount all other forms of taxation, and only focus on income taxes, the sentiment is irrelevant to this particular vote.

His support appears to be concentrated in the middle class. (Median household income in NYC is about 80k, right about the peak of his vote share)

[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Thanks for that information, I had no idea

[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago

holy shit i want this graph for every election

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago

People with great wealth don't pay taxes. They employ loopholes only available to the wealthy. Btw, almost every state has sales tax, you dipshit.

[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Way to rage at and insult the guy that already admitted he was wrong. You tool.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

AlreAdY aDmiTTeD I wAs wRonG

Well, at least your username is half right.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You're right, but people over a certain tax bracket are also pretty good at not paying taxes.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Okay, they "don't pay taxes", but the government still takes the money and then returns it if they ask for it (i.e. file a tax return). That isn't quite the same as not paying.

Also, you have to be stupidly poor to get all of your taxes returned.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Euphemisms like that and "job creators", "wealth creators" are an instant tip-off that whoever's talking is a weaselly venal slimeball.

[-] TxzK@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 month ago

nah it terrifies tax dodgers and leeches of society

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 month ago

I appreciate that they say that employers don't pay taxes.

[-] AoteroaHeritage@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

WANTED: KATHY WYLDE

For contributing to social murder, ideologically justifying excess deaths among the lower classes in order to keep the upper class hierarchy.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That job description says it all

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 34 points 1 month ago

That's an interesting way of phrasing "has actively enabled corruption for decades".

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 month ago

the scariest part about tax the millionaires policies for millionaires is that we did it in massachusetts and the outcome was that it worked and raised billions for the state

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 29 points 1 month ago

"The media" love nothing more than to find the absolute most disgusting scum in our country and interview them for their opinions...

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Outrage generates clicks, clicks generate revenue.
We're both here because we're disgusted by the headline so it obviously works.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

While generally true, I think "the media" does what I mentioned in order to "manufacture consent" in cases like this. They want to create the image of what is "real" and what "people you should believe" think. God forbid you should think for yourself and agree with a spooky spooky socialist, no no we need to make you afraid of him! We need you to believe that only "freeloaders" vote for him and "real taxpayers" will be hurt by him!

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 25 points 1 month ago

imho that's what connects all the right, from finance bros to masculinists to racists : they're terrified. Of change, of difference. Of others. They're deathly afraid and it explains every action they take, every word they say.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

It's worse than that. I'm affraid of these things sometimes too. They are affraid of being affraid. They can't handle it, they can't admit it and they do everything ti disguise it. It's a very primal emotion

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

We’re the taxpayers that want “free” health care while simultaneously paying taxes. The Right somehow thinks we’re too stupid to know we pay taxes that makes these things happen. Heck…we want people to have nice things.

Meanwhile the Right doesn’t want to pay taxes yet somehow expects to get social services like paved roads or safe drinking water. I’d mention schools or health care but the republicans clearly DGAF about those things.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'll bet Kathy Wilde doesnt pay taxes. Also, that job description says "oligarch enabler".

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

In a late 2020 interview, she described herself as "the lone defender of the billionaires at this point".[1] Pro Publica reported in 2018 that Wylde’s salary exceeded $1.1 million, which would make her among the highest paid non-profit executives in the State of New York.[2]

Jesus fucking christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Wylde

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

J'aime les plumbers verdes

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

Mamdani's ideological approach may terrify some employers... the ones that are currently massively dodging taxes, paying way, way lower taxes, getting all kinds of tax exemptions and deductions, getting all kinds of no strings attached subsidies... from actual taxpayers.

The idiot capital class is obviously propogandizing in overdrive mode, but they also seem to be largely legitimately delusional about realizing how astonishingly subsidized they are by public financing, so that they can concentrate private profits.

'But it would be impossible to run my business without training wheels and floaties and a helmet all provided to me by the government!!!'

Ok fuckstick, don't care, sounds like a skill issue to me if you can't main as a capitalist without a bunch of handicaps on, either get gud or stop pretending you deserve your spot on the 'free market' league leaderboard.

[-] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

what self respecting capitalist wouldn't try to pay as little for a service they are forced to have as the possibility can?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

one who likes living in a world with.. things.. in it

what you're talking about is people who treat capitalism as a fucking religion, who think the only point to life is to make number go up.

A sane "capitalist" will realize that it should be a means to an end, that the actual goal is to make life nice, so it only make sense to apply capitalist practices up to the point where it causes harm.
Like, what are you going to do with billions of dollars if there's no one to maintain the roads and airports and railways? What joy would you experience on a wasteland planet with no pretty nature and human culture?

Think of an old-timey shopkeep for example, sure they operate under capitalism, but they still want to fucking talk to their customers and be part of the community, and they'll give kids some extra candy for free because they can trivially afford to do so and it brings them joy to see happy kids, plus those kids will then grow up and remember how ol' shopkeep Williams was nice to them and they'll help him out in his twilight years.

[-] match@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago

millionaires? you mean taxnonpayers?

[-] AriesAspect@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Actually unreadable with the size thing and bloat

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Wait, are you telling me that because he got elected I don't have to pay taxes? Bonus!

[-] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Oh no. Anyway...

[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Um, good?

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