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If I had to guess, I would say Manga 100% and if I had to put a second place, it would be DENUVO (~~fucked~~) games.

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[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 month ago

Why would manga piracy ever get hard, unless they stopped printing it on paper?

[-] Dsklnsadog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 month ago

Even so. You can always make a screencapture.

[-] incognito08@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

DMCA in recent years seems to be more aggressive with banning manga sites than anime sites.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

I’ve only ever used a single huge public tracker for manga and anime and it’s still there. I assume there are more but I never bothered to look.

[-] issas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago

Anything that requires an online service. Specifically, I'm talking about games that need a server to run and permanently shut down once it's offline -- these are becoming more common even among games with single player modes.

I don't see manga becoming harder, at all, even with all the crackdowns. Smaller files, and it's the type of stuff you can't reliably DRM. Denuvo is mostly a problem with companies like SEGA, honestly. Most publishers these days remove it after a while.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 month ago
[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

I think as the atmosphere thickens and satellite images get more difficult, maritime piracy is gonna get a lot easier.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

In general, perhaps, but in keeping with OP's implication of "harder to do" (from an individual standpoint), maritime piracy will become increasingly more challenging to engage in as (/if) it rises in prominence once again, culturally, as civilization falters in maintaining itself globally. 🤷🏼‍♂️ More people doing it, more people taking measures against it, more risk to one's person/lifespan, etc. I mean, by that metric on a larger scale: fucking everything's gonna get harder to do. 😅😶

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Well yes, but relative to, like, baking a cake, i think that old fashioned maritime good-good is going to become much easier.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

On a scale of "baking a cake" and "ruffneck boarding party", how's your post-apoc future going? 🤣🤌🏼

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh, pirates cant have cake? I call bullshit. How the fuck do you afford cocoa powder in 2035?

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

I don't, but the guy two tents over did. I made sure to thank him like a good neighbor, before closing our bartering session with a large rock.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Tents? Fancy. What corporation are you contracted with? Nestle? Blackwater? Walmart-yutani?

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Fair point, but this tarp over the hole I defend as my own "home" isn't a far cry from what us poors were expected to bow & scrape for the privilege of before the Last Day changed everything everywhere for everyone. 🤷🏼‍♂️ It's just hope seeping into common parlance again, I guess.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I still have a few mg of hope, the good stuff, uncut neurotransmitter prodrug. If you really want to feel it. I also, and i know this is kind of black market, but i have half an inhaler of vasopresin. This is the good shit. I wouldn't be willing to part with it, but i got full stapled as a job requirement back in '31, so it's no good to me anymore.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

I hear ya, choom. The whole rock's fucked and we're just the last few koyo to slide off it. Though, I used to know a scrappy olblood from way back. Not even ink on 'im, much less any shine. Last I heard, though: one of his homemade bunker betties glitched and fried him instead. It's almost worth a stroll up the hill, to see if he's still kickin', but I prefer my face attached as it is.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait, you're getting synthetic parts? Im getting 'efficiencies' and 'weight reductions' every few months. Had to give uo a kidney for my last gig, so they could 'be sure i wouldnt drink on the job'.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Nah, that's so you wouldn't drink the bat juice & live for insurance to pay out. That'd get logged and flagged for review up top, but some clocker flatlines & froths out before medi even pings? That's just another on the pile. Next.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

And if war breaks out and many countries are crippled (think post-nuclear apocalypse) that'll help that case too. Not saying it will happen but it could.

[-] remon@ani.social 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I would say Manga 100%

Why do you think that?

I feel like ebooks will always be considerably easier to pirate than any video/audio files, just because they are so much smaller and can be hoarded (and thus seeded) much more easily.

[-] incognito08@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

DMCA taking down manga sites at a greater speed and with more ferocity than Anime, and even though Nyaa is great there are a lot of mangas that are not delivered in torrents and It's easier to find a torrent of a rare and unknown anime with at least 1 seed than of a manga.

[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not sure why you're being downvoted for expressing an opinion... an opinion based on current trends, at that. Mangadex just had a large chunk of work wiped out and many translations are only on Mangadex or translator websites with no torrent. This is a fact. Not hard to be worried that further takedowns will affect access to niche manga.

[-] Brutticus@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

There are a lot of sketchier sites out there. If you want to read something, there is somewhere out there hosting it. Mangadex was great in that it was really quite a cool public service but capitalism doesnt let us have shit things, much less nice things. It hurts too, because for every Shonen boy who tries really hard and makes Jump a ton of money, there are a hundred manga that are never translated officially and a thousand more never translated at all, and Ill be totally honest, I could not give less of a shit about Demon Slayer or JJK. Some titles only have english fan bases because of manga pirates.

[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fair point. Although the problem with those sketchier sites is they usually slap watermarks all over the images and scrape the first release of a chapter regardless of the translation group, which results in very spotty quality. There are absolutely series where certain translation groups or anonymous uploaders snipe it with terrible quality and it's not worth reading until the better group translates it, but the scraper websites don't update their chapters.

[-] Brutticus@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

It certainly is a problem to be sure. but it was like that before Mangadex.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am not so sure this type of pirate ship is gonna be competitive in a modern environment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pirate_ships

[-] glitching@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

piracy didn't start with the internet and won't end on it. like with porn, it always finds a way.

[-] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 15 points 1 month ago

Netflix's short stint with FMV / chooe-your-own adventure games highlights a perfect case of difficult preservation - all the runtimes are closed source apps, all the data is streamed from a server, and all the logic is held on the server.

In theory (big caveat) with enough time, effort, and determination you could reverse engineer your way around even the worst Denuvo has to throw. For simple streamed content like images and sound you can always analog-hole your way around preserving content.

But for anything where the key thing you want to preserve, like logic, that depends entirely on a server somewhere existing, that's a problem.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Netflix’s short stint with FMV / chooe-your-own adventure games highlights a perfect case of difficult preservation - all the runtimes are closed source apps, all the data is streamed from a server, and all the logic is held on the server.

Add to that the fact that a lot of these types of non-standard content have low engagement and interest. Which is what ultimately makes preservation and piracy harder. If you had a lot of interest it would be difficult but not impossible to recreate some of the interactive elements around them, and extract/decrypt the video content. But without interest it's more difficult. Also ironically the lack of interest is why these things are being sunsetted in the first place. It's kind of a perfect storm in that they are hard to preserve and there is also low interest in preserving them as well.

[-] anon5621@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Well if u would count games like NFS 2015 which hardcorely locked to server and mostly die forever with some exception like NFS World where people reverse engineered server.

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Battleforge is another good example. It took about 10 years for the community to reverse engineer the server and host their revived version. https://www.skylords.eu/

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

!skg@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 13 points 1 month ago

Everything that is made with software can be unmade given time.

Denuvo is a temporary road block that had to go so hard to work it breaks games and compatibility.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

It's always niche stuff. Music by non-headliners. Indie films.

I honestly think text/pdfs will actually stay easy. Text, even manga I suspect, is lightweight to host, so it's easier to keep online. By contrast a flac rip of a band that's never gone gold will be too heavy to host on a web page, but too niche to keep dedicated seeders on a torrent.

[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Only games bcz of Denuvo

[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

More broadly, I would say public P2P stuff - at least in its current forms. I'm not sure it can survive some of the generational shifts that have been occurring in society, since it relies so heavily on community and sharing and demands general technological literacy (not just touchscreen/smartphone/app literacy). Those that do actually have the literacy seem increasingly interested in the instant gratification direct download or torrent streaming stuff, to the detriment of traditional methods of P2P file sharing.

[-] Slaxis@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

That is absolutely the trend I’m seeing with younger people. I work hard to curate and maintain a high quality media library, but they’re happy to stream something in low quality from a sketchy site and move on.

That's always been how it was in torrenting

[-] Undertaker@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Sailing to other countries and rob their gold.

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