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submitted 5 days ago by elements@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

My friends and I are hosting a Linux and FOSS group chat to have some casual chat, help, and anything related to the topic really. We chose this platform to chat on to keep a privacy preserving way to engage with one another.

https://signal.group/#CjQKIBshKeuikl5HfagdB46bXpGOyQf_4cVvO3vUMs71DiB9EhDEbE8mS3EPYL0e9CQWHBsy

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[-] solardirus@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I really have no idea why everyone is bashing Signal so much here. None of the concerns listed seem even slightly technical.

The only problem I have with signal is that it is:

A. Centralized (which isn't explicitly a privacy concern, but a control concern in-line with linux and foss)

B. Requires a phone number to register.

It is quite private in spite of that, and goes to great lengths to achieve that privacy. It is what I see people in the security community consistently suggest.

However, if this is a public group, are we to really be that concerned about many of the considerations Signal tries to tackle? Worst case scenario a bad actor simply enters the chat and backs everything up.

It seems like our threat model is moreso in the way of general surveillance economy concerns (and perhaps to have a slightly less public entry).

In this case, point A and B become even more glaring! Why not something like an E2E encrypted Matrix chat?

[-] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

SimpleX is very good if you don't want a classic profile

[-] elements@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry but no. SimpleX is slow, buggy, unreliable, battery draining, confusing, ugly, etc. The only thing it beats signal in is its admin/moderator privileges that Signal lacks and anonymity with no number. but truly, I have been a long time simplex user and it has such a long way to go

[-] kurumin@linux.community 5 points 5 days ago
[-] XXIC3CXSTL3Z@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

how so? curious wait nvm I am restarted

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I downvoted because Signal is not the best solution for privacy. XMPP is.

[-] XXIC3CXSTL3Z@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

at least glowies didn't get to it yet, correct me if I am wrong.

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I have no clue who or what "glowies" are :P Searched the web and found this: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/glowie. Correct?

[-] XXIC3CXSTL3Z@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

yeah basically feds. No offense but how do you not know this already? XD I assumed most people in this comm already know what that meant

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Alright. Haha, I filter out Big Tech and far-right shit on Mastodon :P It's probably because of that. And if some far-right person starts to chat/talk to me, I often ignore him/her. Luckily, that haven't happen... yet.

And to comment your first comment further. JD Vance uses Signal, or at least used. There was a massive Signal leak with him involved few months ago.

[-] XXIC3CXSTL3Z@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

ah poop I live under a rock sometimes. But yeah I heard that trump and his wives' signal chats got leaked didn't think that signal itself got breached. I also hate those dumb big tech and far right people XD anyways ty for the info

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I live under a rock most of the time, so welcome to the club. What I know of, the leaks are screenshots from the devices. How a 1-on-1 chat on Signal got leaked other than by screenshots is beyond me, though. If there is a breach in Signal Protocol, there's a breach in OMEMO, too, since OMEMO uses Signal Protocol.

[-] elements@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

you're wrong but also obnoxious

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Let me know how and where I was obnoxious in my previous post :) That way, I can learn from my mistakes.

[-] elements@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

ya it's ok sorry my man I take it back

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