Ok but let's not further the anti adhd meds bandwagon. I'd be a high-school dropout instead of a college graduate without them

I'd like to bring circumcision into this discussion.

Any Healthcare provider that performs this on a child should be arrested for child abuse.

Invalidating ADHD doesn't make trans people feel better, it only perpetuates ableist and medically misinformed views on ADHD.

Particularly women, minorities, and non-binary people, who have historically been severely underdiagnosed and neglected as is. Girls are 16 times less likely than boys to receive an ADHD diagnosis and treatment.

Women who speak out about their ADHD are often dismissed on social media as ‘self diagnosed pick me girls’ just seeking attention. In reality, many are speaking up against the ongoing crisis of medical neglect.

Untreated ADHD can put already vulnerable people into higher risk of developing clinical depression and other comorbid mental health issues. ADHD medication can be life saving, and calling it meth only serves to stigmatize the mental health issues ADHD patients go through, as well as discourage them from getting the help and medication they need.

If you call yourself an ally to trans people, that includes trans people with ADHD. There is no need to add to their intersectional struggles when they already have so much on their plate.

I don't think many people working outside pediatric healthcare really have an understanding about how comfortable healthcare providers are prescribing interventional care.

When diagnosing and treating a patient we come up with a plan of care that is weighted on total outcomes. Now this isn't a perfect system, for example we may not completely understand the potential harm of new medications. However, we are creating the plan of care with the best information we have at the time. Taking potential side effects and weighing it against the potential harm that could occur without any treatment.

I specialize in pediatric orthopedics and rehabilitation....so take anything I say about gender affirming care with a grain of salt. However, the potential outcome for not treating gender dysphoria as I understand it is pretty bad....self harm and suicide are about as bad as an outcome as one could imagine. Now weigh that against the medications that are usually prescribed for gender affirming care which are well known, and most often prescribed without negative effect for a plethora of treatments ranging from precocious puberty, to monitoring rate of which growth plates close.

Hormone replacement therapy has been going on for decades and is very common place at any hospital that atends to pediatric patients. To claim that intervention isn't appropriate for something with a potential total outcome as bad as suicide, based off "kids can't consent" is a ridiculous notion considering that the same drugs are often prescribed to make sure a child doesn't develop a limb length discrepancy after an orthopedic surgery.

Let's play youth football. CTE is even worse for children than adults, but hey sign this waiver for your kid.

many intersex people had impromptu surgery performed on them after being born because the doctor determined that their genitalia did not conform to their standards of male or female. this typically happens with no parental support or consent, but even if the parents are made aware, it isnt exactly made apparent the ramifications of what will be done.

The fact that bad shit is normalized isn't a great argument in this instance.

actually i've heard from a ton of people that youth ballet training is apparently problematic to them

but not because of the medical complications that certainly do arise with it. instead, because of supposed youth sexualization.

Amphetamines is not the same as meth.

Dexies != meth.

Then there's kids playing contact sports. Rugby is fucking brutal.

First case of stage 2 CTE diagnosed in teenage football player

I get the point, but it's not a good way of defending it. The ADHD medication might be okay, but here is framed as an exaggeration, and the other one is not good.

Furthermore, many of those interventions are detrimental or at least dangerous. Mine was orthodontics and it ended terribly; today, I would need a surgery to correct all the damage caused. While I was a difficult case, it's not uncommon. In recent years, braces are being reconsidered as they alter a developing skull, often atrophiating something while repairing something else. Sports in childhood can have an impact in adulthood. This one I'm also living it closely as my mother was one of those girls inspired by Nadia Comăneci to start gymnastics. Today, she's living a hard late adulthood.

We've normalized not listening to children and thinking of them as our properties. Medical interventions (I literally pointed out the problem with my treatment and I was ignored) or the lack of them can be a sign of this. We need to balance their developing cognitive abilities with their autonomy, not shadowing their autonomy all together. That's the argument. Telling people "things are already done, so what's the problem?" is fallacious at best and counterproductive at worst.