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[-] Technus@lemmy.zip 150 points 6 months ago

The suspect faces several charges of second-degree murder.

This baffles me. Looking up your fucking victim's addresses isn't enough evidence of premeditation to qualify for first-degree charges?

[-] three@lemmy.zip 148 points 6 months ago

In Minnesota, a grand jury is required for first degree. This is just a placeholder charge until they can get a jury.

[-] Technus@lemmy.zip 24 points 6 months ago

That's what I figured after thinking about it, that there had to be some procedural reason for it.

[-] centof@lemm.ee 44 points 6 months ago

If he was left-wing, this would be prosecuted (and propagandized by the media) as terrorism.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago

he wouldve been charged already, much like with mr luigi was. since he targeted the protected ":class"

[-] Technus@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 months ago

Which, funnily enough, would also qualify the murders as first-degree under Minnesota state law: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.185

[-] skribe@aussie.zone 10 points 6 months ago
[-] FundMECFSResearch 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Luigi is white and they’re trying to send him to the gallows.

I think him being conservative is the factor here.

Although I agree if he weren’t white he would be treated way worse…

[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 6 points 6 months ago

If the Nazis stay in power long enough, they'll revert Irish and Italian people back to non-white

[-] yesoutwater@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

IMO nothing to do with the murderer, all to do with the targets. If the assassin was a black conservative dude popping off perceived liberals/Democrats/socialist/antifa/any other word it would be the same. If the dude was a white conservative and was shooting at perceived Republican/Nationalist/fascist/bootlickers/bigots and or billionaires, straight to the gulag.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Arguably, the list alone, plus the customized police vehicle and police outfit, would be enough premeditation.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 104 points 6 months ago

The last major American privacy law, the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act was passed in 1988 by Reagan. The only reason it happened is that politicians realized that their privacy was affected. Robert Bork was going through his Supreme Court confirmation hearings and someone got a hold of the tapes he had rented and published them.

Politicians were worried about their own personal privacy, so they passed a new law to protect the privacy of people's video tape rentals.

Maybe the fact that the targets here were politicians will mean that something will happen with data privacy, for once.

[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Probably not.

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[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There is no allegedly, the dude was a total boomer and literally wrote out instructions on how to dox someone in his notebook which are shown in the federal complaint against him

Literally outlines which sites are free, which ones have free trials, etc

Like you you would think he would just use a text document or bookmarks or something

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

Writing stuff down with pen and paper is an objectively better way to remember things then digital files, also way more secure unless you really, really know what you're doing.

[-] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Well considering he chose to use a pyro-mechanical firearm, instead of things like social/political/legal/economical tools to accomplish his goal, seems to check out lol

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[-] Zenith@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Idk if I’m planning on murdering someone I’m not keeping it in digital form where who knows who or what is stealing/scraping it or using a back door or whatever. Deleting stuff off a computer can also be difficult with insane things being recovered off computers. I would have zero interest in linking anything illegal to anything digital in this day and age.

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[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 55 points 6 months ago
[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

That'll be on the Internet's headstone.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 53 points 6 months ago

Why aren't the data brokers being charged with accessory to murder?

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's actually really easy to get your info off these sites, as they have to delete it upon your request. Just take 20 minutes, pull up any random Top 20 Background Check Sites list, locate the specific pages with your info, and go to town with those deletion requests. (There should be a link to a deletion form on the page or a link to submit a request via email, at least that's how it was when I did this five years ago.)

[-] Mk23simp 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not a lawyer, but from my understanding there's actually no legal obligation for them to delete US citizens' data. They generally delete it anyways to avoid creating backlash that would lead to regulation, though.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

It probably depends on the state.

But, I did mine five years ago and still check it periodically. My info's not on Spokeo or any of those scummy sites even all these years later, so it's a good way to spend 20-30 minutes.

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I read your post and reply below and am surprised that your info never showed back up online.

I tried this myself about a year ago back when Google first announced they would also add a tool to assist in removal of unnecessary info like this.

I found that I was able to remove about 70% that never came back.

10-15 percent more, whether they were via Google or whatever, would flat out refuse to remove the info for various reasons.

The remainder would often remove it only for me to find it later with some sort of ‘change’ and that being - they put the info back in and had changed the spelling of my last name or now had me listed as a business so as to get around certain privacy listing rules (like WTF).

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

If they own houses that is public info.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 36 points 6 months ago

While true, the lookup is the address to the owner, not the other way around. Compiling the information to show querying by person should be illegal.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

But did you think about the shareholders

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[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

My county lets you search property tax records by owner name. It is trivial to find someone.

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[-] Hello_there@fedia.io 23 points 6 months ago

You can find out someone's home address from their email address. These brokers are out of control.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago

remember that exactly a month ago trump killed the cfpb rule targetting data brokers.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 months ago

There was some story about privacy and politicians finally getting off their asses when they learned that their business records at porn shops could be revealed. I think this was in the 80s. Not sure at what level, but probably pretty local, I would guess.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Trump will fix this don't worry

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Just like he did with the eggs!

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"To make something cheaper, you must first make it more expensive" - Sum Fu

[-] mmmac@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've been using a service to automatically opt out of these sites for about a year now. I also don't use my full last name when I buy things online anymore, and use VOIP phone numbers and anonaddy/simplelogub emails.

Can't find myself on google and most data brokers anymore.

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