If theyre in the apple ecosystem, they already have apple products that charge with USB-C.
not an apple user myself, by my cousin is stoked he doesnt have to carry extra cables to charge his phone as he already carries his Macbook charger with him. Doesnt apply to magsafe ones for obvious reasons
The magsafe ones still use USB-C on the charger side, and you are not required to use the magsafe cable, so honestly just bringing the charger and a C-to-C cable will charge both the phone and the laptop.
How do people even use the magsafe cables? Not a mac user, but I initially liked the idea - so I got some cables and port inserts which pretty much look like the apple variant. I stopped using it after killing a charger by shorting it out with some metal particles trapped by the magnet, and noticing that all cables started collecting small metal particles when used outside of a sterile environment.
Apple doesn’t tell its store employees SHIT. We were on MacRumors and streaming the keynotes so we wouldn’t be blindsided. I really doubt they were told this.
I don’t get it, current charger is usbc out. The current charging cable is usbc to lighting. Why won’t the included cable work with the old charger? New cable should be just usbc male on both ends. What am I missing?
The new cable, that is included in the box, is C to C, both male, so there is literally no issue. Apple is just butthurt that they had to ditch lightning.
And probably they want to redirect the anger of iPhone buyers from them to the EU.
And 9to5 mac is butthurt too? Like… I still have two iPod classic cables and they are not going to the landfill. They will replace the one I use when it breaks. Same will happen for these, you will give them along to whoever still has a lighting jack until they break.
9to5mac spews the same garbage Apple puts out in my experience.
They are so butthurt they said they will be limiting data transfer speeds to usb 2.0 because they want people to use their stupid icloud subscription
Apple is trying to claim it's the fault of regulators that usb-c to lightning cables will be useless e-waste despite being the wankers that chose to use lightning instead of usb-c in the first place.
Lightning predates USB C by like two years
But not USB as a standard it doesn't. They still chose proprietary over standard because wankers.
Micro usb fucking sucked. Being a standard doesn’t mean shit when the standard is shit.
What the fuck are you talking about? Lightning cable specs were identical to micro USB.
Other than, you know, the connector. The thing most people care about. Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.
Micro usb was non reversible, the little pins broke all the fuckin time so the cable wouldn’t stay in the port, and the connector would damage the port itself so you’d just be fucked.
Lightning was miles ahead of that. It was reversible so it literally didn’t matter how you put it in. There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer, and since the internal pins in the port were all on the sides of the port it was a lot harder to damage the port itself. If the cable got damaged you could just replace it without worrying about the port.
Lightning was better than micro and mini usb in pretty much every way.
There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer
...except Apple made the housing and cable super fragile so they'd sell more "certified" cables. Phew, dodged a bullet there. Any excuse Apple ever made about Lightning falls on its face when you figure out how two-faced they are.
Sad thing is that I actually liked Lightning cables, a lot, but I liked them when they were made by decent manufacturers with braided cord and a sturdy connector.
Lightning cables are notorious for breaking. https://you-well.co.uk/why-apple-cables-break-so-easily-what-to-do/
So what is there left to say about it...that you don't have to look at the port before plugging a lightning cable in? Is that your justification for saying the USB standard sucked?
Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.
Modern PCs have 3.0 ports. Androids have 3.0 ports. 3.0 cables are available at any online store. What the actual fuck are you talking about?
You’re the first person I’ve ever heard defend micro usb lol. So congratulations there.
Yes Apple branded lightning cables break pretty easily. Not the fucking port in the phone though. Way to ignore that.
“Android” isn’t a single maker. Sure galaxies and pixels are USB3.0 or 3.1. The vast majority of cheapo Android phones use 2.0.
Not the fucking port in the phone though. Way to ignore that.
I'm skeptical that this happens anywhere remotely near frequently enough to condemn the entire technology. Never seen it, and never heard about it until just now.
“Android” isn’t a single maker. Sure galaxies and pixels are USB3.0 or 3.1. The vast majority of cheapo Android phones use 2.0.
I would love for you to find a single noteworthy android manufacturer that is not in this list. *Edited because this link was not working correctly on desktop site
Sure, but that moves us out of a conversation about e-waste
Yep, the e-waste conversation is bullshit apple propaganda because they aren't happy about playing nice with competitors and losing proprietary control of their connectors despite it being the same e-waste as if they were upgrading from or to any other standard.
Eh, at the time they went with proprietary over micro usb to have a reversible port that could push more wattage. I feel like they’ve been dragging their feet because consumers hate changing to new cable standards. I remember the complaints when they moved away from the 30-pin to lightning. They’ve been putting USB C on devices for years now.
I remember the complaints when they moved away from the 40-pin to lightning.
Are apple consumers more prone to this complaint than the rest of us? Since I've had cell phones I've moved from USB-mini to USB-micro to USB-C. Every time it was a better change. This is just as many as apple is being asked to do except now they get to benefit from all of the 3rd party cable manufacturers.
I think most tech-illiterate consumers are iPhone users. That’s been my experience in the US at least. If I started talking cable wattage or data transfer speeds to my aunts and uncles they would immediately glaze over.
I was a bit skeptical of your statement, because it FELT like they came out at the same time; but you are completely correct. The iPhone 5 with lightning was released Sep 2012, and the USB-C standard was published in Aug 2014. Almost exactly 2 years later. The first smartphone with USB-C didn't come out until a full year later, though. So lightning was more like 3 years ahead in the phone world.
It's good that regulators put a stop to Apple producing even more proprietary BS cables then.
"Landfill" Wouldn't it be best if you donate a cable or something if its in a good enough condition?
Better than just tossing it out, especially if some people don't upgrade every single release and would still like a cable.
Ya that’s dumb asf, especially if it’s just to charge the phone which the majority of people only need it for that.
Problem solved, I have usb c to lightning adaptor too anyone needs to borrow my cable to charge I can use it and so can they
What's that Apple?
Bark bark bark
You pushed USBC down the well?
Previous iphone models are not gonna disappear over night, and there are hundreds of millions of them out there. People are still using iphone 6 and 7 till this day. Lightning cables and accessories are still gonna be made and sold for years to come.
I’ll probably buy one or two of the lightning usb-c adapters to use for a while to allow charging when travelling without extra cables.
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