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  • New regulations will target six major tech companies to improve consumer experience and data privacy. These include Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, ByteDance, Meta, and Microsoft.
  • Pre-installed apps like weather and email that are difficult to delete will be disallowed, aiming to promote interoperability and reduce "gatekeeping" activities.
  • Companies will be prohibited from monetizing user data collected from phone apps for advertising purposes.
  • The regulations will encourage competition by allowing alternative payment systems, benefiting startups and consumers.
  • The European Commission aims to empower consumers and ensure tech giants adhere to European rules, providing immediate accountability for any issues.
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[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Once more, the EU being leader when it comes to users' rights and keeping the big companies accountable for their shady practices. 👍

Sometimes i wish i lived there :')

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 60 points 1 year ago

As a Canadian, I appreciate a lot of what the EU does when it comes to consumer protections. Hopefully this one also ends up impacting the rest of us!

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 23 points 1 year ago

Same, my American brother, same. (I'm from Chile btw) 🇨🇱✌️

[-] ink@r.nf 4 points 1 year ago

Excellent use of the word, my friend.

[-] Hikiru@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I plan on moving there as soon as possible when I graduate high school. Real tired of America

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 8 points 1 year ago

Some countries in EU offer Americans free education and easy work permits after graduation. I think Germany has program like that.

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[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Theres plenty of places that need workers, in the EU!

Depending on your education it will be easier or harder, of course (also which country you plan on going to)

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[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago
[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 10 points 1 year ago

You caught my attention.

How has life changed for you since Brexit?

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not the person you asked, but for me:

  • In 2017 I lost my £70,000/yr dream job as the company I worked at decided they couldn't keep their EMEA campus in a country that hasn't decided how, when or even if they were going to allow foreigners in.
  • I had to move to a shithole town in Nottinghamshire to live by myself in a cramped one-bedroom flat to do a job I hated for £22,000/yr.
  • That company went under because we couldn't import the network equipment into the UK because of Brexit. Most vendors weren't bothering since there were shortages anyway, so why not just send all their stock to Germany where there's no nasty surprises and plenty of buyers waiting.
  • Ended up doing minimum-wage shift work at an Amazon warehouse and Deliveroo deliveries to survive.
  • Got another, similar job on £20,000/yr.
  • Not had a holiday in six years. I used to have at least two a year.
  • Can't get a CPAP machine for my apnoea because of difficulty importing them (ended up getting a friend in France to buy one for me).
  • Local supermarkets still can't get a lot of fresh fruit that they used to stock. Empty shelves common.
  • My savings went from £50,000 to zero.
  • Government is pissing money away on detention centres and hotels for immigrants because they refuse to cooperate with the EU.
  • Government is also planning on ripping up our Human Rights (ostensibly to deal with the immigrants) and has even indicated they would like to abolish GDPR, bringing it full circle to OP's comment.

So, yeah. Not everyone has had as bad a time as me, but everyone I know has encountered some negative fallout. I've yet to encounter anyone who has actually benefitted, even indirectly.

[-] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So err, do you think the country has any chance of fixing stuff up, considering Poland is on track to overtake the UK at this rate, within a decade? And have perhaps some of your political ideas/values or strongly held beliefs changed at all?

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Different brit here. I suspect the plan is to reduce immigration by making the UK a place no one would want to migrate too.

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[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jesus, i'm really sad to hear all that. 😢

Let's hope the british goverment comes out soon with a good strategy to push the economy forward, (or just reverse brexit altogether).

[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 6 points 1 year ago

Damn, that's awful!

[-] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

One urgent thingis that the EU follow the UK in abandoning the ill-conceived "client-side scanning", aka Chat-Control.

[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 5 points 1 year ago

Both have laws like that in the making and beside tiny formalities the UK sadly didn't abandone it at all! :/

[-] TheTimeKnife@lemdro.id 81 points 1 year ago

Glad the EU is cracking down on tech companies. They have done a good job fighting for consumer rights. Even improving them in nations outside the EU both by forcing companies to make global changes and by inspiring local legislation. It's something they should be proud of.

[-] happyhippo@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago
[-] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Reading the guardian article I was like meh.. some stuff is good and anything is better than nothing but then I read the actual DMA

“Fines: of up to 10% of the company’s total worldwide annual turnover, or up to 20% in the event of repeated infringements

Periodic penalty payments: of up to 5% of the average daily turnover

Remedies: In case of systematic infringements of the DMA obligations by gatekeepers, additional remedies may be imposed on the gatekeepers after a market investigation. Such remedies will need to be proportionate to the offence committed. If necessary and as a last resort option, non-financial remedies can be imposed. These can include behavioural and structural remedies, e.g. the divestiture of (parts of) a business.”

Fuck ya break up some of these fuckers if they keep breaking the rules and percentages of worldwide turnover? I can only get so errect

Even though this is EU based, if they actually follow through with the fines and possible breaking companies up I can’t see why the companies would not just make this a worldwide standard… I could be wrong of course cuz corporations are shit

[-] sculd@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

EU comes to the rescue! Again!

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I know that I can uninstall first-party apps on iOS (for years now). I think Android users can, as well. It seems like, other than the monetization bit, this bill simply codifies things that already exist. Am I getting that right?

If so, they are praising themselves for saying "you have to" about things that already exist. Don't get me wrong, it's important to prevent backsliding (I hate that word), but c'mon. And yes, the anti-monetization bit matters, it should be there, I just think this is overblown reporting.

[-] alekks09@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Carrier pre-installed apps are definitely not easy to uninstall on android

[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 11 points 1 year ago

Have you ever touched a Google phone? You CAN'T uninstalled preinstalled apps on ether of them, if you don't root your device third party app stores suck, the law allows you to get rid of preinstalled bloat, messager interoperability is included and so on, that's a huge law and the first against silicon valley giants with enforcment that will actually hurt them!

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

It's not just that. Apple can't self preference their own app store on iOS for example. They not just have to allow other app stores or just installing stuff, they also can't have their own store as a default. They also have to enable people to use browsers other than Safari.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

You can definitely disable most pre-installed apps on Android, and even force uninstall them with adb. But complete removal is hard, so they'll still sit on the hard drive.

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