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[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 80 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, the classic dual-boot woes

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The supposed update that fixed it (windows update) broke it worse than ever, took me quite awhile to figure it out.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 26 points 2 weeks ago

If you're lucky, it's still on the disk and you just need to "repair" the bootloader.

If not, well, that traumatised Mr Incredible pastiche might be at least a circle of hell too pleasant.

You have backups, right?

[-] todotoro@midwest.social 26 points 2 weeks ago

It always sucks dual booting in my experience. It’s an exercise in balancing maintenance and disk space management between two operating systems. You’re always likely patching if you actively switch between them.

I think it’s usually better to choose one and virtualize the other. I’d rather choose Linux + Windows VM than the other way around.

[-] Klajan@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly VMs don't work with the Anti-Cheat rootkits, one of the only reasons I still have Windows

[-] todotoro@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yea, I figured thats why most people end up dual booting. It’s not a judgment or anything.

FWIW, I get around this by either using Geforce Now to stream the game that uses it or simply not playing the game lol. It’s not worth dealing with Windows for me.

My friends and I don’t usually play the kind of games that use Anti-Cheat so its not an issue.

[-] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I haven't had dual boot problems since the early 2010s. I don't even know what I'm doing right.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Probably installing on separate drives.

[-] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nope. Only have the one. I usually create a separate /boot partition and use UEFI, I think.

[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 weeks ago

The trick is to have a second EFI partition. One for windows to destroy, and one for linux to enjoy.

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

This should not happen unless you booted into windows and ran an update.

[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ladies and gentleman we got em

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Well, but you could update windows, then reboot but boot into linux. That means the windows update can't fully complete yet. Now if you start up your PC the next day and it boots into Windows by default, the update process will continue.

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Same thing. You'd have to boot into windows at some point.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I have Linux and Windows on separate drives.

[-] bluesheep@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I that why I never relate to this issue? I've had a dual boot setup for years by now and have always been able to choose either windows or Linux at startup, but they are on separate drives

Yeah, Windows has a habit of borking bootloaders whenever it’s on a partitioned drive.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Gaming. Want a quick round in a pause? Mount error: go boot Windows to fix it. But i have multiple tools and sessions and stuff open...

And Windows still can't handle anything reliable.

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one 1 points 2 weeks ago

@MonkderVierte @bluesheep ntfs? just use chkufsd binary from paragon mounter apk (there is static x86 binary in assets). And do not use ntfs-3g, it is slow and almost abadonned.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, right, i never used the new ntfs driver. So it's only a bad memory.

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one 1 points 2 weeks ago

@MonkderVierte new ntfs driver sometimes might be unstable (usually chkufsd helps fix some errors)
Also there is fuse Paragon UFSD version (you may use ufsd binaries from paragon mounter on x86)
But ntfs-3g utilities sometimes cannot fix even trivial journal errors

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Me too, the windows drive is in the garage

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

With super cheap SSD’s and motherboards with multiple m.2 slots, there’s rarely an excuse not to have different drives anymore. Laptops might be an exception.

[-] Funky_Beak@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Some gaming laptops come with a second nvme slot. Mine does and I did exactly this. Was wayyy simpler.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Can that actually happen like this? If Windows killed the bootloader wouldn't that mean that you couldn't boot into Kubuntu either? Or can it somehow kill the bootloader when the PC is turned off?

[-] lime@feddit.nu 13 points 2 weeks ago

ish. if your boot priority is set to windows first and it decides it needs to repair the bootloader it can wipe other oses from the boot order.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What definitely did happen to me is I booted into windows, shut down, on the next startup there was no more grub menu, just instant boot into windows. (Separate physical drives).

[-] art@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I constantly tell people the dangers of dual booting. They don't listen and then it breaks.

[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I constantly tell people the remedy of the dangers of dual booting, using a separate drive for Linux. They sometimes listen and then have a dual boot system that doesn't break.

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Eh, Windows has broken grub before even if it's on a separate drive, some Windows update did that last year.

[-] Sar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Grub had/has this issue every time windows does a cumulative monthly update. Systemd doesn't have this issue.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Separate ssd's lets go

[-] 0xf@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

While microsoft has admitted to bugs causing exactly this scenario. I personally have a stabe 6 months with dual-boot. And only updating cachos once a month or every two weeks has been fine. The server and rog ally exclusively runs linux.

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