Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social
Educate me. I mean this with no hostility, and I'll be honest about the fact that I'm not an American and am seeing this from the outside. I'm not attacking anyone and I'm not defending any one stance, because I'd like to be educated and I'm not confident my news is giving me the whole picture.
Educate me.
Here's what I hear.
Please spell it out for the rest of us. And how can I help?
Isn't this exactly what Trump would want? I may be missing the point here, and as an ally I don't mean to take anyone's energy away from far more important efforts.
Please educate me (if you can). Please fight for your rights!
The only police reform we have seen in 15 years has been as the result of BLM violent protests.
Violent protest got you every single right you have.
It's historically the only way slaves and the poor have ever improved their lives.
Shut the fuck up
I know this is an anarchy community, but peaceful protests have been successful before. And the thing is, if the authority literally fired and killed a civilian, the authority will immediately lose legitimacy. This is what protestors are railing on. They are like "what are you gonna do kill us?"
It turns out you can just kill protestors.
Well, it did propel further the withdrawal of US from Vietnam. It further de-legitimised US involvement in Vietnam by the public.
This time is far more consequential and existential though. If the guardsmen and marines killed any of LA civilians, it could cause a civil war and perhaps the collapse of the United States as we know it. But you still would not want to be the one to fire the first shot and give Trump legitimacy.
Civilians have been teargassed and kettled before while peacefully protesting - recently - and the public reaction to it was largely either 'meh' or 'oh no I feel sorry for the poor people who live near those violent riots'.
Yeah. They don't care about legitimacy, they will literally kill everyone if they think they an replace you with robots.
You do realise that we are still far away from having robots to replace humans?
"I can't believe no one is doing anything!! I'll post on twitter where real change happens!"
Something i have brought up before as an example is when i was in elementary school and high school, i was bullied very very badly. They would say horrific things and beat me up. This happened for almost 10 years. Everyone always told me "ignore them. Be the bigger person.", "if you hit them, you are just as bad.", "if you ignore them, they will stop.", "have you asked them to stop bullying you?".
Teachers would constantly make excuses and ignore the bullies. Because if they said something about it, the whole class would lie and say i did something to deserve it. I never did anything because i was terrified.
One day i got jumped again after school by one of them and i snapped. I beat the everliving fuck out of him. The last punch was straight to the throat and he struggled to breath.
Not a single person in the class bullied me ever again. Not a single word was said to me from that day on.
My point is that asking bullies and fascists nicely to stop, does not work. They are not playing according to the rules. We are currently "fighting" them with the assumption they have morals and will stop if we firmly tell them to. Did the protest annoy trump? 100%. Probably spend the entire night annoyed. Is he rethinking his fascist plans? Absolutely not.
I do think the protests are beautiful to see. So much solidarity and love. Its amazing to see with our own eyes that our side is MASSIVE. and that the right does not have nearly as much people as they pretend they do.
But i also know it won't change but. Trump is not going to leave. He will not stop advancing his fascist plans. ICE continues their gestapo bullshit. LGBT and womens rights continue to be taken away.
It's a beautiful morale boost. But sadly that is all it is.
Sorry for the rant. I do love seeing the protests and i really have so much respect for the people out on the streets. But i don't think much, if anything, will change.
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