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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've seen this posted a few places and there's amazing number of people who aren't able to pick up on it. For the first frame no it's not really MSG people. It's a British person selling opium to Chinese kids. They're tricking them. They're British it's what they do. For the second frame I'm deeply concerned about how many people aren't able to read the facial expression and body language of the two native women. Somehow some of y'all looked at them and thought yeah they seem happy despite the frowning faces and sad looks on their face. It's implying the rape.

Drug pedaling Brits and rapacious conquistadors. That's the message of this comic. Media literacy not at a high it seems

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's because it's a fucking gross depiction. Everyone gets that.

It's also the weirdest mix of historical innaccuracy and self censorship.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 2 months ago

Clearly not enough people get that.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Centurii-chan has really captured the market on gooners that celebrate these things. The artist does it all on commissions and the requests they recieve indicate their market is genuinely into that sort of thing.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

Having this be a commissioned piece certainly explains the weird MSG line.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Most things I recall are often a lottery system of subscribers submitting requests. I was an old subscriber but I started seeing a bit of an unsettling pattern and they got increasingly porny.

I don't blame the artist one bit though. Get that money.

[-] match@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

they should give the indigenous women knives

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

Narrator voice: the Spaniards did not, in fact, "love" brown women.

(It took about forty years after contact for the church to declare indigenous people as actually human with the 'Sublimis Deus' papal bull in 1537.)

[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised it didn't take longer.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Well that was the church, not the conquistadors or the spanish crown and emperor. I believe the history went along the lines of some clergy felt the conquistadors were being a little too barbaric and unchristian, so they convinced the Spanish to debate it a few decades later and eventually convinced them to take a break for a few years.

[+] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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[-] fushuan 19 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure that the second page is depicting the scene before the rape takes part, both natives look displeased because they were forced to be there. And the left one could be a kid.

Idk what's being whitewashed in this metaphorical rape illustration tbh.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 2 months ago

People are completely media illiterate and see the "main"character of the picture being happy and thus immediately think it's a celebration of the bad thing

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

And all of the straight up genocide.

[+] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Given NJM's comment I can fully understand his downvoting. People can disagree with your comment for more than one reason.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Let's not weaponize people's votes, thanks. Probably the single worst "feature" added to Lemmy.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has its uses but most of them are bad

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I don't see any real reason anyone should be able to see anyone else's votes that isn't nefarious. The only reason people would want to see how others vote is to be able to call a hate mob to harass someone for "voting wrong."

Regardless, people should be allowed to vote however they want, even if that means its not the way you or I would have voted a comment or post. People vote on posts and comments for a trillion different reasons. Someone might agree with a comment but they feel it is off-topic or de-railing the conversation so they downvote it, and then you get terminally online serial harassers attacking them because "they don't agree" or some other awful reason.

Ultimately, this ends in posts getting no more down votes, except for maybe spam posts, and then upvotes also being low because nobody wants to get attacked for how they vote on posts. Certainly a great way to ruin engagement in an online platform, IMO.

Like, just remove votes entirely at that point.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

I think it was a response to give out needed mod tools that just ran across transparency as an ideal.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Like, just remove votes entirely at that point.

A number of communities and instances disable downvoting which helps moderate the behavior altogether. Either people agree and upvote to promote, or they GTFO and/or feel ignored.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah,that post wasn't even funny by 4chan standards.

[+] WhyIAughta@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

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[-] eighty@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago

I thought it was referring to the Opium Wars

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Dunno how you get that. MSG has nothing to do with opium.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Some nations like the British colonized and conquered by fucking with the people. The other end of the spectrum, Spain and others just fucked the people.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wrong. The Spaniards did a lot of murder.

Funnily enough a pretty large portion of Robinson Crusoe is about how superior the British colonial method is because healthy slaves make more money.

[-] marzhall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The hell kind of sick joke is this?

The conquistadors literally drug women out into the valleys underneath where the Inca were barricaded up and raped them so their screams would echo up to the besieged, whom they later either slaughtered or enslaved, and beheaded the rulers after forcibly converting them to Catholicism and hid their remains so they couldn't be worshipped in Inca tradition. Is that what you consider "just fucking"?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

The french name for this is "café au lait" (for the french).

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