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there was an update from the admins of lemmy.nsfw where language barriers got in the way and the wrong impression was made, which was quickly addressed by the instance's other admin as well as edited by its' original author.

this got people in this instance concerned until the edit was made, however in two threads about it on kbin social the anime PFPs came out to play and the head admin of dataterm was obligated to comment as well

the funniest part is, it really demonstrates the truth of stereotypes about people with anime loli PFPs. at least a couple of the commenters in those threads are going to end up on watchlists.

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[-] TerryMathews@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

ITT: people who don't know that "loli" derives from the Nabokov novel "Lolita", about a man who kidnaps and sexually abuses a 12 year old.

[-] Pilirin@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

what a clusterfuck. after the beehaw bullshit it really looks like "defederation" is going to be the battlecry of the popcorn consumer, huh? well, maybe not so much "battlecry" as "call to the decadence couch" but whatever

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Are we doing r/drama again?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It was a very popular sub. I can't imagine they'd fail to make the jump.

What's going to be really crazy is the pedo instance having their own catty "these losers don't understand she's a 10,000 year old dragon in a 9 year old's body" threads.

[-] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

r/drama already jumped off reddit years ago. They had IRC, then discord, then rdrama.net.

[-] gsa32@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s also our (un)official lemmy community at !drama@lemmy.world

[-] a_crappy_pirate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

hahahaha seems that way

OK sure there’s no victim - but who the fuck wants to see this shit anyway?!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think they call themselves Ephebophiles

[-] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

While I mostly agree with the no victim statement (some artists were caught using illegal references), it's important to know that the loli fandom is the most toxic element of the whole anime community, and also it's illegal in many countries, including the very one that hosts this instance (Poland).

[-] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] GaryPonderosa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You know how weebs are always making absurd claims like "well she's really a 3000 year old dragon in the body of a 12 year old, so I'm not a pedo"?

Loli/shota dispenses with that. It's about romantic relationships between adults and children. It's pedophilia. Full. Stop.

Loli is underage girls, shota is underage boys.

[-] a_crappy_pirate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"loli" is underage girls, and "shota" is underage boys? not 100% sure tho

[-] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What a terrible day to be literate

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] cats@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Drawings of some of the most heinous crimes humans commit, and thoughts they have. It’s natural for people to be disgusted by them.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

So you never watch a movie with murder? I'm sorry I can just differentiate between fantasy and reality and know that drawings won't hurt people.

[-] cats@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You’re starting an argument about something I never said. I said it’s natural for people to be disgusted by drawings of child porn. I don’t know why my statement made you so defensive.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You jump into an argument about whether something's morally wrong with a comment that very heavily implies that it is, and wonder why I'm defending my argument?

No one's saying people don't have a right to be disgusted with it. Just like people can be disgusted with any other type of porn, like rape or incest. But that doesn't mean drawings with no victim are immoral

[-] cats@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That’s not the conversation I jumped into, are you paying attention to who you’re replying to? Someone said “what a terrible day to be literate” when they were told what loli and shota meant, because they were naturally disgusted, and you told them to calm down. I told you their reaction was natural, and you keep trying to drag me into a different conversation. I really don’t understand the argument you’re trying to start with me. People are naturally disgusted by child porn, whether it’s real or fake. None of the comments I’ve replied to have been about morality, and I’ve made no judgements one way or the other. Your interpretations of my comments are a reflection of your mindset.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

undefined> Your interpretations of my comments are a reflection of your mindset.

How? Because I'm in the middle of an argument with someone else, and I didn't ignore all the ongoing context of that other side thread when replying to you?

I'm not really starting any argument with you. You posted in the same thread as other arguments I'm having.

[-] cats@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I posted on your first comment when there was no argument happening at all. You chose to interpret my comment as an attack on your morality, which is a reflection of your mindset.

[-] BuxtonsWaterUK@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

No where in his reply did he say anything about you attacking his morality, what are you talking about?

Drawings made specifically for paedophiles to get sexual satisfaction, fuck off.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So you'd rather have them hurt real people than jerk off over drawings? Yikes

[-] Burp@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I, and many others, find the use of ‘loli’ content in this context to be morally questionable. The key concern is the normalization of such behaviors, which can perpetuate and potentially endorse harmful desires. Moreover, even though it involves drawings, it still fosters an environment that is fundamentally based on the sexualization of underage characters.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

undefined> The key concern is the normalization of such behaviors, which can perpetuate and potentially endorse harmful desires

This is the same exact argument that violent video games "normalizes" violence. It was wrong then and it's wrong here.

[-] BuxtonsWaterUK@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely, people do not commit major crimes just because they saw them on TV or read it in the newspapers. They do it because they want to.

[-] andobando@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know if I agree with that. Porn I watched has definitely affected what I want in real life. Even if its a fantasy world, its definitely made me think "huh this might be hot in real life". Thankfully its nothing harmful but nonetheless. I can definitely see how the abundance of certain porn enforces the thought that a certain fetish is common, normal.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's pretty different from wanting to fuck kids. Wanting to try an activity is pretty different from changing who you're attracted to. Unless you think gay porn's existence will make people gay.

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[-] Aeonx@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

In case no one got the memo the world is run by pedophiles and human traffickers. Top politicians, entertainment industry, corrupt judges, bankers, the elite. Our entire world is morally questionable. I'm just not going to get worked up over fake children in fake worlds, when there are real children being hurt who need my outrage more.

As a side note, do video games normalize violence? Because if we are going to use the argument that people looking at drawings normalizes and endorses harmful desires then we really need to have the discussion about video game violence.

I'd rather them not fucking jack it to anything resembling children you fucking imbecile.

[-] Aeonx@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I would also rather you not glorify blowing anyone up/putting a bullet in someone's head who resembles a real human being in addition to people not jacking off to someone resembling a child.

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[-] ilovesatan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just because we've decentralized doesn't mean we should start accepting pedophiles.

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