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Donald Trump was deliberately left in the dark about Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strike in Russia on Sunday, which destroyed nearly a third of the Kremlin’s strategic bomber fleet in a surprise attack.

The large-scale drone attack saw a fleet of drones scattered all across Russia carry out simultaneous attacks on five airbases, wiping out 40 irreplaceable military bombers worth an estimated $7 billion, which have been used to reign terror upon Ukrainian civilians.

“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan and was personally overseen by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told CBS News.

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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 344 points 1 week ago

Why would anyone even consider telling any politicians of foreign nations about a top secret project like that, much less blabbermouths like Donald Trump?

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 225 points 1 week ago

I'd be surprised if Ukraine isn't feeding Trump false info to see if Russia reacts to it

[-] dwalin@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago

Dont know about false, but a good mix of low priority targets.

[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Dantooine. Zelenskyy is on Dantooine.

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[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

Between nations that share trust and respect, theoretically, it would give them time to reposition themselves to the coming reality, and perhaps more importantly, give any assets they have in the area a warning to keep their heads down/not step on any toes.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 40 points 1 week ago

"Deliberately blindsided" is a little strong. We're not even officially an ally of Ukraine. They don't owe us, or anyone else jack shit as far as their war plans for defending their country. Add to that the fact that Trump is credibly accused of being a Russian asset and defers to their interests 99% of the time... Why the fuck would you trust us right now!?

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[-] Scottyc65@reddthat.com 197 points 1 week ago

Considering Trump is a Russian asset, that was a smart move to keep him out of the loop.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

They need to false flag him next time

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[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 126 points 1 week ago

Yeah you don't typically tell the enemy about your secret attack plans

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago

You don't sound qualified to be the secretary of defense. Here, this bottle might help with that.

/s.

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago

"Ukraine doesn't give intel to obvious Russkie mole"

Yeah, no shit

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[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 79 points 1 week ago

As is appropriate.

I'm trying to recall a disco song from, I believe, the 1970s whose lyrics in the chorus went somewhat like the following - though I might be mistaken:

"That's the way uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh"

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Not totally sure of the relevance, but you're thinking of K.C. & The Sunshine Band's 1975 That's the Way (I Like It).

[-] goofus@lemmy.today 74 points 1 week ago

Why inform Putin's Bitch?

[-] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

Ukraine is a sovereign country, they don't need to tell Don anything.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Exactly. As a courtesy they might give trusted allies a few hours notice, or at least inform them when the op has started. But unless they needed the assistance of an ally in planning and preparing such an attack then informing anybody well ahead of time serves no useful purpose at all.

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[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 48 points 1 week ago

Was it because Trump didn’t say “thank you” after the last time Ukraine shared top secret war plans?

[-] dellish@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

But I bet Putin said "thank you" when he received said plans...

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

LOOK AT THE FIREPLACE! No fake spray gold ornamentation! What the shit?!? Is the Oval Office a reality tv show set? Compare the fireplace from when Zelenskyy visited to Ramaphosa’s visit on May 25:

That’s some heinous Temu-quality decor! stay classy USA

🤡

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan

Either they left the Biden admin out of the loop too, or Biden went scorched Earth on Ukraine intelligence after the election to protect Ukraine.

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

I would imagine the first one to be true. There's no reason to inform everyone about it. I also predict Biden would be against it.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 18 points 1 week ago

Biden and Sullivan would have been talking about how this is too much escalating and fucking threw a fit. Those dudes sucked and with a less afraid President of the US, Ukraine could have repulsed Russia in the first year with top of the line American arms but Biden was a fucking asshole who sacrificed Ukrainian lives for nothing

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[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This is the sort of op they would typically notify an ally of when it is actually imminent or just got started. If Biden was still in the White House my guess is he would have been given roughy 72 hours notice or less.

[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

The US election was 8 months ago. The operation was probably still in the planning stages. After that day, Ukraine would have known not to share any sensitive info with the US unless absolutely necessary, knowing that a Putin fanboy would soon have his hands on it. Had Biden still been in office today, he may have gotten a heads up before the actual execution, but then again, why would he need it. It is not like that information would have been actionable to anyone except the target.

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[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin's move. Would have confidently proven that tRump is an asset if moves were made to the fake target. Trap this fucker and then public punishment!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin’s move.

Putin, the Saudis, Israel, FIFA...

Trump's White House possibly has the highest listening-devices-per-sqft of any office on the planet. I wonder if signal interference is a problem.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

You do not inform enemy agents of your secret military operations.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Even if he weren’t a Russian simp, why would Ukraine tell anyone? An 18 month long attack is just tooo much invested to risk losing the surprise

[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 28 points 1 week ago

Because it's blatantly obvious he supports Russia how often has he accused Ukraine of starting the war by being invaded now?

Should probably use him to give the Russians false Intel.

[-] sircac@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

What kind of twisted toxic argument is to phrase it like that and call it news?

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[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

I wouldn’t even tell trump what time it was, let alone something this hugely important. Trump should feel snubbed, because he’s an untrustworthy piece of taco shit.

Good on Ukraine.

[-] Michal@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago

He will throw a tantrum, demand to be in the loop. Next time he gets the intel, Russia prepares, but Ukraine will strike elsewhere 😂

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why would a sovereign country, being attacked by a hostile neighbor, be required to inform ANYONE about their war plans? I wouldn't inform anyone, even my friends. They'll see it on the news, like everyone else.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago

Good, thats what they should do

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

this has been planned long before TACO came into office. how about something is not about mUrICa?

[-] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Probably sounds better in Ukrainian but "Operation Spider-web" is still fucking badass

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I would not tell Krasnov jack shit about any military operation.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

That's why it worked. We all know it.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Good. The orange shitter has been pretty clear that he's no friend of Ukraine, there's absolutely no chance that he wouldn't have leaked that information to Russia just on the hope that daddy Putin would give him a pat on the head and pretend to be friends again.

[-] Vari@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Guys they did the same for Biden. Sure, trump is Putins puppet but this is standard for such massive ops.

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[-] Birch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

They should feed the taco some fake intel, e.g. some abandoned shed in the middle of nowhere being a secret drone factory and if it gets obliterated the next day...

[-] dinren@discuss.online 12 points 1 week ago

Trump isn’t involved

[-] Binturong@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

And the operation turned out to be a complete success! Looks like a good strategy going forward.

Not one person on this entire site can tell me anyone should trust tRump in ANY situation, let alone one where he has leverage over you and interest in... your stuff. Expect more of this by the way; turns out when you're a constant asshole to everyone, nobody wants to be around you or rely on you, let alone offer to extend help in your direction. I'm honestly baffled what people fucking expected, only brainrotted simps believe in the real adult world, on the global stage, you can twist everyone's arms to get your way without consequence forever. And only tRump can't see this cause that's been his ENTIRE life: No consequences ever for being the absolute worst person regarding character and conduct.

[-] nimble 10 points 1 week ago

What country is openly sharing top secret mission details with countries that are buddy-buddy with the enemy?

Such a clickbait article title + intro.

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