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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by jerrimu@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Hey everyone.

I make Peersuite, an opensource free communication platform.

It's private by default, there's no sign-in or email collection.

It's peer-to-peer, there's no server, after discovery you are connected directly to your friends my AES-GCN encrypted WebRTC channels. It forms a mesh and identifies superpeers. Because there is no server, in order to save your data between sessions, you can download your workspace into a password encrypted file. Happy to answer any questions.

FEATURES:

  • chat with images, PMs, channels, and file send
  • group audio/video calling
  • screensharing
  • kanban board
  • whiteboard for diagrams/flowchartswith PNG export
  • collaborative document editing with formatted PDF export

The best way for self hosting is docker, its on dockerhub as openconstruct/peersuite. You can also download desktop versions from the github or use on the web at https://peersuite.space/

github - https://github.com/openconstruct/Peersuite

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 76 points 1 year ago

It's peer-to-peer, there's no server

The best way for self hosting is docker

🤔

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 1 year ago

It doesn't contradict by definition. So ipfs is also decentralized yet you will need to run a client /server. So the client is also the server. Allowing you to connect to a mesh decentralized system. Just like torrent is also both a client and a server.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Yes, it takes an initial connection for discovery. The peers need to know how to find each other.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 1 year ago

If there's no account, how do I "log in" to my community or whatever

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If you are hosting you send them the room code and a password. You can save a workspace and restart it later, so if you had an active chat it would reload automatically when you imported the file

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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's html and javascript, the release comes with loose chromium files, ffmpeg binary and a 190MB executable. The link typo hasn't been fixed in hours, they don't link to the github, they misuse terminology, etc. and it's version 0.3.

That's a no from me.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago

The link typo hasn't been fixed in hours,

Whoa, hey, they're not paid on-call. Give it a few days.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I've been babysitting my granddaughter, just got on the laptop.

[-] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

How dare you

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

That's fair, the project is about a month old, the electron releases will get an installer for some platforms.

[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's an early version and I have no doubt that you guys will make it a lot neater, and it seems like a nice project. I just think it breaks several basic rules of privacy and security oriented programming, which is why I don't think it's a good fit for this community just yet.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Noted. Thanks for the reralistic input

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

You should ask for a refund.

[-] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

OK, so I tested Peersuite with a friend and I have to say: wow! We have collected a bit of feedback we would like to share:

Positive: The audio, video and screenshare quality is outright amazing and much better than Discord. We had no crackling, delays or any other disturbances in any of those features. The UI is simple and functional, and everything is snappy and fast. It is also very easy to setup a workspace and to find yourself around the overall UI.

Negatives: There appears to be no option to also share audio while screensharing, which currently is a major drawback for us. There is no dedicated audio channel. As soon as someone starts an audio call, you'll hear the person no matter what. Only if you purposely join the call, will the others hear you. Opting in and out of an audio channel like in Teamspeak or Discord would be nice. When my friend started a video call, the audio input of the webcam's microphone got activated, so I heard him twice. When he turned off the video call, the webcam's microphone stayed activated. Once someone shared their screen or their webcam and turned it off later, you would still see them in the video and screenshare menu but with the picture being black. We would expect to be gone when closing the stream. There is no option to adjust the volume of an individual user. It would be nice to assign users to carts or columns on the Kanban Board. It would be nice to adjust the size of the Collaborative Whiteboard.

It might seem like we are complaining a lot, but we actually really like the experience so far, so thank you very very much!! Once you can also share audio with your screen, and once we can setup our own persistent server (and maybe be able to adjust the volume or mute a user, and have the audio room a bit more isolated from the rest), we are ready to jump ship.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Awesome! Real world testing finds things I never have! I'm going to improve a lot of things based on this, thanks for the input.

I have actually never thought of audio while screensharing, In my head it was mainly for people to watch videos and games. That's an easy fix. Opting out of audio is easy enough. Audio and Vido shouldnt happen at the same time, thats a bug. Seeing a blackscreen after sharing is also a bug. I can implement per-user volume easily enough. User assignments in kanban is already on the roadmap. Adjusting the size of the whiteboard, this one is probably not going to happen. It was a real struggle getting it working as good as it does now. It should scale to your screen for the most part. I may re-implement Zoom in/out for drawing.

It doesn't sound like complaining, this is what I need, thank you for your input!!

[-] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for your response!

Instead of Discord another friend and I used Peersuite (via browser) for over 2h to hang out. I watched him play Oblivion for around 30 min. So far everything was stable and high qualitiy. Hadn't had any issues with the audio or the stream.

But we found another bug: if multiple people are working on columns or carts on the Kanban board, as soon as someone posts it, the textbox of the others get reset and the text they were working on is gone.

And we also had another thought: would it be possible to have the option of creating multiple audio channels like in Teamspeak or Discord? When playing team games, it is nice to have individual voice channels for each team. Another point would be user rights management, so basically what a user can or cannot do (maybe with a role-based approach: create roles like admin or read-only that you can assign to individual users), as well as the ability to block and unblock users (is this even possible with P2P?).

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[-] beveradb@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I appreciate your mature response to feedback - I don't personally have a strong interest in this but generally like to support open source competitors to commercial monopolies; if you have any way to donate money to you please share and I'll send a few bucks

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[-] Arkhive 6 points 1 year ago

This review honestly sold me on trying it more than I already was. Assuming it gets actively maintained, this is a great roadmap feature/bug list. Perfectly presented constructive criticism. The internet needs more of this.

[-] detun3d@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Keep up the good work, it's always good to have alternatives. But please at least fix the link in your post, it's giving a bad first impression.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] TheKracken@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Is this open source? Otherwise this feels like a honey pot.

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Asked the same question I was gonna, so I did the googling.

https://github.com/openconstruct/Peersuite

AGPL

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

And revolt was right there being all open source and stuff

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 12 points 1 year ago

Revolt is not E2EE, h fortunately.

[-] shinomoroll@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

But it's not decentralized

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

How do you think matrix feels.

[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Go tell 'em! Why have alternatives if we can just put all our eggs in one, holey, basket?

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

There are some seriously toxic fuckheads in this thread. Thanks for your effort so far, I look forward to seeing where your project ends up!

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[-] cptbichez@leminal.space 12 points 1 year ago
[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

That was my first thought.

[-] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Any reason you chose github vs codeberg? Just wondering. Gave your project a star regardless. Nice work!

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I've been on github for like 8 years now, familiarity, plus the build tools are nice, github actions builds the docker images for me now

[-] Interstellar_1 6 points 1 year ago

The website gives a 404 error

[-] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I removed the dash at the end. Guess it was a typo

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[-] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This looks very promising, thank you very much! Going to fully test it out tomorrow.

Is there anything planned to have a persistent server option (self-hosted)?

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, I plan to create a node server for permanent rooms. It will allow you to name the server, which then acts like a superpeer and keeps the workspace open and saves progress every 10-30 minutes.

[-] dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wonderful! The possibility to spontaneously hop on the server to look whether a friend is online or not is very important at least for us compared to the necessity of having to set up the room each time (which would require us to coordinate beforehand that we want to hangout in a voice channel).

[-] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

I'll spin this up in docker and check it out tomorrow

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