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Is that bad? (lemmy.ml)
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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 104 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Windows is basically malware now. My wife is forced to use W11 for work and she fucking hates it with a passion (and that’s the pared down IT version).

I pulled out my old gaming laptop that had been unplugged for quite a while and found it somehow updated itself to W11. I immediately wiped the computer and installed Nobara as the main OS. No regrets, no issues, and no half-assed bullshit.

Windows on the ASUS ROG Ally is absolute dog shit. It would constantly reboot to install unwanted updates that offered zero value on a handheld (let alone anything).

Nothing I own will ever run Windows.

Windows isn’t popular. It’s forced onto tons of prebuilt computers and most people wouldn’t know what to use instead. Fuck Windows. Rant over.

[-] feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

If someone can please make Autodesk stuff install and run under Wine, not saying Autodesk to deploy their stuff natively for Linux, I'd be gone with the blink of an eye. And I bet a lot of professionals too.

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

The best would be if the open source alternatives got better and more popular, like Blender did for 3D stuff.

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Maya and Motionbuilder run on Linux, but that happened before they were hoovered up by the monster. Autodesk just ignores that part of their portfolio. I know a few people who work/have worked on the Maya team and they're talented, passionate devs, but management just doesn't give a fuck about Media & Entertainment when Autocad and Revit are making so much money.

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

What's Nobara? I've never heard of that OS.

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Gamer-focused derivative of Fedora Linux.

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[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Rant on, bruddah! I am also in the "must use it for work" group, and I despise my work laptop with the fury of 1000 suns. In my personal work and prior to this new job, I was staying on Win 10 for Inventor, AutoCAD, FL Studio (and a bunch of VST synths I bought), and DaVinci Resolve Studio. My experience with my work laptop has spurred my nearly-complete jump to Linux.

FL Studio has been replaced by Bitwig, new learning curve and loss of the VSTs just being the cost I have to eat. I almost have DRS running in perfectly in Aurora Linux. And my two Win 10 machines will just go into an isolated network until I can figure out workarounds/replacements for the Autodesk garbage.

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[-] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 101 points 2 months ago

This is partly to do with the start menu trying to act like a search engine. Its frustrating when you are looking for a document or application and it searches the web.

Microsoft why can we not turn this off!

[-] Backfire@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

It's simple, really.

If the first results are a web search, you wouldn't notice how terrible the local search indexing is.

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I legitimately cannot believe how comically powerful medium level hardware has become yet the windows user experience is so much shittier than it was almost 20 years ago. I remember school machines struggling less to power up on 1gb ram and a one core machine that my gaming rig does sometimes. Windows is such a fucking waste of computing power.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

You can. I've had it off for years. It just needs a registry update, and persists across updates.

[-] yum@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 2 months ago

And people say Linux is not user-friendly

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[-] prole 7 points 2 months ago

I mean... KDE can do it just fine.

[-] JohnDumpling@beehaw.org 6 points 2 months ago

I have it turned off. But maybe that option is not available outside of EU? I don't know.

[-] amphy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

There's a few ways to turn it off, but they require registry editing or using the Group Policy editor if you have a Pro license

https://www.ghacks.net/2021/11/26/how-to-turn-off-search-the-web-results-in-windows-11/

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[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 55 points 2 months ago

I haven’t used windows in so long, the only thing I know about it is the incredibly high volume of complaints regarding it.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Yes, the most popular OS on the planets used by the most people on a daily basis, also has a high number of memes about it. Shocking. What information you've gleaned.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago

the most popular OS

It's barely the second most popular OS, after Android. iOS is pretty close behind it. And yet the amount of complaints Windows gets seems to be far higher than that of Android.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Fair point, I would argue that it's not e entirely fair to compare a mobile OS that basically eschews backwards compatibility, for a desktop OS that can still run 30 year old applications, but it's not entirely unfair either, they're still both OSes and lots of the complaints have nothing to do with the burden of legacy support.

[-] mcv@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Does it still run 30 year old apps? I was under the impression that a lot of DOS and Windows software from the 1990s ran better under Wine than on Windows.

[-] black0ut@pawb.social 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is true, especially for games. But for some reason, even though some compatibility features have been removed from windows, others still remain. Hell, if you look into System32, you can still find the dialer app from windows 95 (still with its original icon, btw!), or Windows Vista's "bubbles" screensaver, and they still run.

Edit: this is not a windows praise, it's a critique. Those parts are dead weight, and windows isn't even that good at offering compatibility for old software

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

a mobile OS that basically eschews backwards compatibility

I have an app built for Android 4 running on my Android 15 device. It looks ugly but it works. Of course other apps will not be so lucky, but some backwards compat is absolutely there.

a desktop OS that can still run 30 year old applications

Not really, Microsoft is steadily breaking old stuff. For example lot of 10-15 year old software that was doing something hardware-related would be broken now due to driver signing changes/restrictions (e.g. WinRing0 things).

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 12 points 2 months ago

Being the single OS that has had a chokehold on the prebuilt computer industry for ages doesn’t mean it’s popular. It’s also used in tons of workplaces where people don’t have a choice. High number doesn’t automatically correlate to “popular.”

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I didn't mean like people's choice popular, I just meant most used. The more something is used the more memes you'll see about it's issues.

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[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago

Same here. I can’t figure out why anyone uses based on what I read.

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 months ago
[-] unique_hemp@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago

"great work" 🤭

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

"I have deemed my own work to be 'great' and that's the only professional feedback I take"

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[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

I'm thinking that maybe I should upgrade my old Win 10 Pro laptop to Windows 11 Pro, "just in case", instead of going full Linux everywhere.

And then I read shite like this.

You're not making it easy for me Microsoft.

[-] nagaram@startrek.website 20 points 2 months ago

Linux everywhere and then Windows VM labeled "Shitty Spyware Do Not Open"

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 32 points 2 months ago

Yep it's pretty bad...

[-] moonlight6205@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago

Best thing about Windows 11 is that my hardware doesn’t support it

[-] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It probably does. Microsoft just tried to pull a fast one and get everyone to upgrade because windows 11 was just that great!

....

[-] moonlight6205@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

My PC is 10 years old. It is not supported

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

React Native's new architecture is not that bad.

You basically just got a single lightweight JavaScript thread that runs your update loop around which components should be rendered and updated, but then all the components are bound directly to underlying C++ native components.

I would still expect the start menu to be aiming for zero dependencies and as fast a start as humanly possible, but it's not that crazy compared to something like Electron (which itself is not as inherently bad as most people make it out to be).

The real problem with slow web apps has less to do with the architecture of the apps, and more to do with them letting developers build apps really quickly and easily, meaning that you often have apps built by developers who don't entirely know what they're doing, and they introduce tons of inefficiencies like double rendering etc.

[-] Jourei@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Is right click menu one too? After boot, it always takes like 5 seconds for it to show up, recurring times it takes <1 second (not instant). I run last gen ryzen somethingsomethingXD and 4070 so my PC can definitely run a context menu.

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

On windows 11 or windows 10?

The <win10 context menu is old and poorly designed. Each app that declares itself on the right click menu gets to hold up the entire menu for like 3 seconds each. So if you have one poorly designed app that can appear on that list your right click menu will be super slow. Try to go through the right click menu and disable each app that appears one by one until you find the culprit.

Windows has this official tool, if you go to the explorer tab and find .../contextMenuHandlers section you can easily disable them one by one but i haven't used it personally.

Win11 tried to fix this and moved to a different model but in doing so made the first level right click menu functionally useless.

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[-] kshade@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

And yet it's somehow less awful than the Windows 10 start menu. Is it still improvement if you put the bar under the floor yourself?

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[-] atlien51@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

Microsoft couldn’t think about this while they were developing the OS, no?

[-] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

I’ll take Business majors making technical decisions for 400, Alex.

[-] atlien51@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Sorry that’s 500..

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Gosh, after all the hacks I do to Windows I often forget how terrible the experience is for all my users our there raw dogging it. 🪦

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

no fucking way

[-] kjo@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 months ago

So that's why it is so freaking slow! 💩🤡💩🤡

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[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No wonder why Windows is sluggish
I thought they were using winui or win32 ngl

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