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submitted 3 days ago by faab64@freefree.ps to c/palestine@lemmy.ml

problem is not Netanyahu, it is not Ben Gvir. it is the white supremacist mindset of Israeli public.

#Israel #Genocide #Politics #Inhumanity #Racism
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[-] kittenzrulz123 33 points 2 days ago

Its not even a country, its a military occupation zone and the people a colonialists. So yeah what a shocker that people in the ZOZ (Zionist Occupation Zone) are extremely racist. Im in the ZOZ rn (long story, my parents thought it would "turn me into a Zionist") and yesterday they celebrated the brutal occupation of east Jerusalem. In that parade people waved "Israeli" flags happily alongside Kahanism flags, even Zehut showed up (far-right "Libertarian" Zionists).

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Remember that the Holocaust had majority support in Germany too.

Saying Israel is like Nazi Germany is absolutely not a metaphor. There are more similarities than there are differences, they just switched up which ethnic group is the target.

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

https://zionism.wtf/ Though quiz for the daring and the ones who are still unsure if there are parallels.

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[-] Farid@freefree.ps 13 points 3 days ago
[-] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Generational trauma. It's probably exactly the same thing.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm tired of hearing this. Every population has a segment of straight up fascists in it and the zionist project explicitly selected for those people. Calling it generational trauma is centering the jewishness of the project and doing the same equating that they do to justify themselves. Most jews don't live in 'israel'. Most jews aren't fascist. Most jews don't display this 'generational trauma'. And there are a lot of fascists of other backgrounds that don't have the 'generational trauma' yet exhibit the same attitudes.

So that's not what's going on. They're not victims; they're fascists.

[-] Farid@freefree.ps 3 points 2 days ago

@AntiOutsideAktion @thepenismightier The victim mentality plays a central role here. Like the Germans they are blaming - dehumanizing - murdering others for their own shortcomings.

https://farid.ps/articles/victim/_mentality/_scapegoating/_dehumanization/_genocide

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[-] anonymous1979@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago

For sure, but netanyahu is also very much a problem.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Ethno-states gonna ethno-state.

[-] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago
[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can only find articles about the poll, but not the poll itself. Anyone got more luck?

Edit: I honestly think this shouldn't be posted without a solid source. It could be fake and would serve to 1) make the Israelian government able to say "look, we have that much support from the public to continue the genocide" and 2) further the divide of the actual people living in the whole region regardless of made up borders.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

Same thing in the USA. Trump is a symptom. He could drop dead tomorrow and somehow take half of the admin with him, and the problem would still be there. The underlying problem is that roughly 1/3rd of your population is frothing at the mouth to slaughter another 1/3rd while the final third stand by and watch silently. This is not something you can fix with elections alone.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago

in the last U.S. elections, 98% of voters voted for genocide

[-] faab64@freefree.ps 15 points 3 days ago

@Kyrgizion exactly.

This is the problem I have with blue MAGAts on bluesky. They are so focused on Trump and the BS story of Russia causing the problem in their society, they ignore the massive army of evangelical Christian Zionist movement that got Bush and Trump into power and control most of the media in the country.

It's the pre programmed mindset Hollywood worked so hard for decades to get into people's heads that the problem is always because of one bad guy not the movement behind it

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

82% of israelis want to ethnicly cleanse every gazan, which is a crime.
56% want to eject every non jewish israeli citizen from Israel, regardless of their citizenship.

And about half want to outright murder every palestinian regardless of age or guilt of anything. Its a country chock full of violent terrorists and a whole lot of fans of murder of innocents. Those are much worse statistics than nazi germany had. Just 18% of Israelis belong somewhere besides chained in a cell.

But dont get caught saying anything bad about zionism or having a political opinion that runs counter to Israel's will. Then youd be an antisemite, which is worse than being a war criminal, evidently.

[-] Coding4Fun@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

Durable peace in the middle east is not possible while the state of Israel exists.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Advocating for genocide

zionists not conflating genocide and the dissolution of a state challenge (impossible)

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 22 points 3 days ago

Schrödingers only Democracy in the Middle East.

Government is legitimate because it enacts the majority will of the people, but the government statements and actions are not representative of the majority of the people...

Unfortunately i am afraid we will see mostly the same shit like in post war Germany when everything is over. Denial, pretending to not having known, claiming to have been mislead, just following orders...

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[-] Binturong@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

It can be, and in fact is, more than one thing. In fact, all of these are even related closely. Wouldn't want people to mistakenly think your goal is to direct attention away from those who are most directly culpable for action when it comes to Genocide, that'd be... weird, right?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

I think it's pretty obvious that their point is that Netanyahu is a symptom of a deeper evil, but go off with your vague accusations and insinuations I guess

[-] faab64@freefree.ps 4 points 2 days ago

@BrainInABox @Binturong

Netanyahu is the flag bearer of the Israeli fascim, the flag was handed over to him from Begin and Sharon and will be given to another monster who maybe even worse than him.

He is not the reason for Israeli atrocities, he is the child of a supremacist mindset who lies with not shame and gets away with it.

He is far worse than Trump, because he is not an idiot and knows how to manipulate others without looking like a clown. .

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

in case you're wondering, here "white"="majority," not the definition used politically in most countries. Retro-etymology being "blank," or "standard," like a sheet of paper without details. In Japan, for instance, white people are ethnically japanese. I point this out because in Israel the majority would not be considered white in many places in the world; Jews would elsewhere be considered a diverse conglomerate of ethnicities.

I normally advocate for terms like "racial supremacist" or "ethno-supremacist" in a context like this because people don't get nearly as defensive when they hear this, but white supremacy is catchy as a term I guess and so it perseveres.

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