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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 109 points 1 week ago

Ban plastic for consumables, glass and cardboard forever!!!

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 43 points 1 week ago

Glass soda bottles just hit different™ I would pay extra if it's an option

[-] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 week ago

They do, but you're not supposed to hit people with them.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Glass is a verb isn't it? What else would you do with them.

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[-] albert180@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Here you can get them at most grocery stores. It's also usually the standard for German Brands, it's mostly Coca Cola Brands that are sold in Single-Use-Plastic

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

Not in Iran. Only some restaurants, mostly old school ones carry them now. They also take the bottle back, send it to the factory, where they are cleaned and filled again.

[-] Redredme@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Err, the fact that you get a deposit back when returning the bottles means they're most certainly NOT single use.

PET flasks are very easily recycled. Easier then glass. There is a whole industry built on it!

Here in NL we've had this system for as long as i can remember. (Im over 50)

[-] albert180@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Err, wrong. Every Bottle in Germany has a deposit on them. 25ct for Single Use PET 15ct for Multi-Use PET and Glass Bottles

And Use refers to the amount of times they get refilled until the material gets recycled.

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[-] vivendi@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

You still get the micro plastic bonus tho

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago

In case you didn't know, I think you might like to know: In Germany they also do reusable PET and reusable glass.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 18 points 1 week ago

"reusable" in really big quotation marks

[-] accideath@feddit.org 37 points 1 week ago

Nah, there are a lot of glass and plastic bottles that do get reused a couple of times. You can oftentimes even spot a characteristic ring of scratch marks from the machines that process, clean and refill the bottles.

Typical „Mehrwegflaschen“ are

  • Beer bottles (glass)
  • Milk bottles (glass)
  • Lemonade bottles (glass)
  • Water bottles (glass and plastic)
  • Coca-Cola/Fanta/Sprite bottles (glass and plastic)
  • Yoghurt cups (glass)

There are multiple standardised types and sizes that are used by a multitude of brands. They are not recycled but reused. (Well, they do get recycled, once they are either broken or show heavy signs of use. The „Normbrunnenflasche“, the 0,7L standard bottle for water, for example, gets refilled about 100 times.)

And of course there is the „Pfand“ (deposit) system: Depending on the type of bottle, you usually pay a 8ct or 15ct deposit on the bottles. The system works pretty well.

Of course, there’s also a lot of one way bottles. Those usually have a 25ct deposit and are not reusable but get recycled instead. They’re usually also being brought back to the store, people want their 25ct back after all. (And yes, I know a lot of them aren’t actually recycled but end up at a landfill all the same).

And of course, there are also a lot of glass bottles that are not being reused and instead recycled by default like wine bottles or some non-standard types.

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[-] Kacarott@aussie.zone 15 points 1 week ago

I mean, they get collected, washed, and reused. Not sure why the sarcasm about it?

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

Why do you mean? Am I missing some context? Or do you think I'm conflating recyclable with reusable?

They actually do have re-use programs where bottles are cleaned and refilled. Unfortunately they also have single use, that are only recycled, I'm not trying to hide that. But the re-use program seems good to me. I wish we had it in Switzerland.

https://www.nabu.de/umwelt-und-ressourcen/ressourcenschonung/einzelhandel-und-umwelt/mehrweg/nabumehrwegguide.html

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Some PET bottles are reusable in Germany, and the scuff marks are a very clear sign some of these bottles have been used a good dozen times.

It's not all bottles though, many will be crushed and recycled (I hope).

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[-] albert180@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

Dude, why are you spreading bullshit when it's quite obvious you have no clue?

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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

I believe that glass is more of a solution than a problem. Compared to plastic, it is more durable, its production process has less impact on the environment and not to mention that in the case of beverages, returnable glass packaging is better in several aspects

[-] Gamechanger@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago

Multi-use glass is were it's at. Producing glass is an energy intense process, the more you use it the bettet it gets. Single use glass packaging is a crime. (Same goes for plastics multi-use>single-use)

[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Glas is not used anymore because it's much heavier (= more expensive when freight is charged by weight) and breaks when you drop the palett.

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[-] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At max that's 5.95 an hour or at minimum 3.96 an hour. Kinda shitty pay, and 60% of what was recycled was just burned anyway. That numbers for Germany BTW where it's the highest in the world. On average less than 9 percent gets to be new plastic worldwide.

The weight loss is good to see though. Excersize is good for your body and spirit

Anyway next I'm off to tell some kids Santa isn't real and that the tooth fairy is just their already poor parents giving them money to have them believe there's magic in this world preserving their sense of wonder a little while longer.

[-] nyankas@lemmy.ml 113 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh boy, here I go ranting against misinformation about recycling again.

Your claim that 60% of these bottles will be burned is false. The recycling quota for single-use plastic bottles in Germany is 97.6% (2023; source).

60% was the quota of all non-recycled plastic packaging material combined, back in 2018. This quota has further decreased since, and is now at about 30% (2023, source), so almost 70% of all plastic packaging in Germany is recycled. It's still not perfect, but far, far better than just burning everything.

Recycling isn't an easy and cheap process, but it can definitely work and be steadily improved, if it's properly implemented. I'm so tired of this dumb suggestion, that recycling is bad because it's not perfect (or, in the case of the US, full of corruption). Every bit of plastic that isn't polluting the environment is a win. And recycling is definitely helping with that. As opposed to propagating false information on the internet.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

So separating my plastics when I bring them to the Wertstoffhof actually makes sense? I never bothered because I've always been told it gets all thrown together anyway.

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

People's main gripe with it is that a huge percentage of plastic has traditionally just been separated and then would either still end up in a landfill or sent to China or wherever to recycle. I don't know however how much of a case that is still.

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You’re forgetting the person is also making the streets a cleaner place, having fun ( I enjoy picking litter), great for mental health, and choose your own hours.

[-] albert180@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago

That's complete Bullshit. PET which is what these bottles are made of has a recycling quote of 98% and over half of the PET used in the production of new bottles is coming from recycled bottles

[-] agavaa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

As the other commenter said, the bottles actually get recycled; if they weren't they wouldn't have a system where they pay for the return. And it doesn't make sense to count it as "pay", as in compare to a normal job pay, cause it's not. Dude is walking around and cleaning the environment, gets free PS5 out of it.

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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

All that work collecting garbage to buy garbage.

[-] KiESi@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

You get 25c?? We only get 15c, not worth the PS level effort.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

In ireland its 15c for small bottles, and 25c for large ones.

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago

Here in Arkansas, I don't know any "trash" that you can pick up for a deposit. I think when I was a small child in the 80s you could do glass bottles, but when plastic came in that ended. As a teen, and up to maybe a decade ago, you could get paid for aluminum scrap (by weight), but both of the metal recycling places in my county (Polk) do not pay for aluminum anymore (they will accept it, but not pay for it).

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[-] jcs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago
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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

Pfand sollte in mehr Ländern eingeführt werden

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

recycling plastic releases even more microplastics. ban plastic

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago

Okay, just fucking leave the litter in the street then. 🙄

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[-] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

Here we get 3 cents for every bottle. I don't think I'll be buying a PS5 anytime soon.

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[-] anonymoushobbyist@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Government should increase the buy-back price even if it means increasing the initial costs. At least they'll return it. I think glass and aluminium are still better than plastic, unless ofcourse, profit and comfort. Population is still the ultimate cause of all, humans don't understand that Earth can't handle it.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Reusable glass bottles have their own issues, especially emissions from logistics if they are transported for longer distances.

Cleaning reusable bottles is energy intensive and uses a lot of water and chemicals. Melting and recycling glass is certainly more resource intensive than doing the same with plastics.

The best solutions to reduce resource intensity is local production and consumers bringing their own containers, going for dried instead of canned when it comes to fruits, beans and the like...

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[-] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Or you could have worked for a couple of days but yea, that's nice I guess

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Maybe they do work and barely get by and so they did this part time each day for extra spending money.

[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah I work and I don't have money for a PS5 all willy nilly

[-] HertzDentalBar 9 points 1 week ago

Maybe they are working? Maybe they are disabled? Who knows but don't gotta be a dick about it.

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