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submitted 1 year ago by MooseBoys@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[-] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 221 points 1 year ago

People who think being a jackass is a form of activism. That's all you really need to know.

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 95 points 1 year ago

Uh hello, it's called jacktivism.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

Oh right! I thought that was... uhhh ... something else

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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have seen so many thread saying how bad that instance is but every time I ask for links proving how bad they are I have never see anything worth the hate.

Can you provide some examples?

[-] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 96 points 1 year ago

I have never see anything worth the hate.

You just have a very high tolerance for jackassery. You've seen plenty of evidence of hexbear hostility, i.e. the "dunk tank" that would justify not wanting to interact with hexbear users and have actively chosen to disregard it.

This is because you're kind of a jackass. Disregarding people engaging in good faith with "just trust me bro" is exactly the kind of thing people really hate hexbear users for. Not because of illegal activity or moral failing, but because they're assholes. While you may think this isn't worth de-federation, unfortunately moderators aren't some kind of legal authority, and if federating with hexbear means instance admins or community moderators need to put in triple the work to prune all the arguments and """shitposting""" hexbear users love, nobody is legally or morally required to put up with it.

It's legitimately that simple. Hexbear users are jerks and nobody wants to hang out with them, and that's enough to ban them from any given community or instance.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago
[-] Gormadt 30 points 1 year ago

For anyone curious:

Source for the thread where that image comes from.

The whole thread is pretty eye opening to be honest. Especially the top comment.

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[-] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 71 points 1 year ago

Lol, that's because the mods of said threads already had to delete all the bullshit they posted once they "accidentally found this on all" and then descent on it like locusts (but they're totally not brigading!!!1!)

Here's one of their mods:

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[-] audiomodder 58 points 1 year ago

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1854795

How about flooding a meta thread that’s not on their own instance to insult people who disagree with them?

Part of the drama with that incident included hexbear folks straight up saying “I thought the whole point of federating with other instances was so that we could dunk on liberals”. Majority of folks on hexbear did not see any issues with the behavior of their members on this post.

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[-] GnothiSeauton@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

If you'd like examples I know some of their bad takes are starting to be posted to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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[-] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 195 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Weirdly intense and antagonistic internet communists.

Like, picture that guy you avoided conversations with when you were 19.

[-] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because, Id wager, their userbase is primarily edgy leftist teenagers, really kind of like if 4chan was left and not right.

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[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 174 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A social network that was formed as a fork of lemmy, before lemmy had really entered the fediverse (tho they were planning to). Both Lemmy and Hexbear had communists among their founders, but the Hexbear devs found it more... Central to their objectives. When Lemmy federated, Hexbear didn't. It planned to initially, but ended up being pretty satisfied of being a small, yet centralized social network, basically a communist Reddit. But the idea of joining the Fediverse appeared tempting once again with the boom that happened on Mastodon when the muskrat ate the bird, and to a greater extent when Reddit changed their API policy and lost a lot of the user's trust, causing many redditors to move to Lemmy.

Hexbear devs then worked to essentially make it a Lemmy instance, but there were always disagreements about who to federate with. They first federated with Lemmygrad and Lemmy .ml. Lemmy .world quickly blocked them. They temporarily federated with sh .itjust .works, but this wasn't well received on either side, so this was soon undone.

Ideology wise, pretty much everyone on Hexbear is some kind of communist. However, altho the "tankie", pro-russia type is often seen, it's not that homogeneous (there are even anarchist channels over there), arguably less than lemmygrad.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 42 points 1 year ago

I think this is the most fair shakedown I've seen so far

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 164 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ever wanted to be talked down to by a 14 year old alt-right sociopath who pretends to support lgbt so they can stealthily insult liberals and blame western whites for how China is?

Edit; downvote more, at the end of the day you're still a hexbear 🤢

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Gods yes, it's all I've ever wanted. Do they do birthdays?

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 47 points 1 year ago

No, celebrations of any kind are western propaganda. Your question has been audited and was found to have negative implications towards the state. Shock troops have been dispatched to your most recent location, have a great day, comrade.

[-] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

holy fuck I laughed out loud at this outside by myself at ten to 1am .. I didnt know what hexbear was, soooo, I reported a post for saying that anyone who ever supports a democratic candidate in america needs to be hit by a truck, and that violence needs to befall them, so the mod I reported it to posted my username and announced I had reported it in a comment to that post. people then piled on saying how I was a hypocrite and deserved violence brought against me, because violence has been done by cops agains homeless and trans people. also, that all I care about is getting brunch

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 133 points 1 year ago

A lemmy instance full of trolls and people celebrating chinese and russian fascism in the name of socialism

[-] Brisolo32@lemmy.eco.br 45 points 1 year ago

i once read a thread where they were saying to defederate from everyone. then why federate in the first place

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago

Its a 6 sided bear, the peak of the polygonal phylogeny.

Monomouse

Duodugong

Traye-aye

Quadferret

Pentacoyote

Hexbear

Heptaherpeton - this is the furthest we've discovered in the polygonal phylogeny but research indicates the likely existence of an octorca as well

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Octoria are scientifically impossible, the grazing territory requirements alone for a sustainable breeding colony would be immense. Any reports of them in the wild are either misidentified pairs of quadferrets copulating, or hoaxes perpetuating the psuedoscience.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

quadferrets copulating

That's where you're messing up. Those are pentacoyotes, not quadferrets. The contact side between two polygonimals mating is actually obscured, so the actual number of sides in a copulation configuration is the sum of the sides of all involved polygonimals - 2. Therefore the octorca could not be two mating quadferrets, but could be two pentacoyotes, or a chain of duodugongs.

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[-] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 year ago

I've read all the comments here and still don't have a clue what a hexbear is

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So you know the Lemmy instance Lemmy.world? Well, there is another instance called hexbear... Which is full of hardcore, Stalinist communist. And every user of every other instance hates them

[-] Huschke@programming.dev 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do people always put labels on them as if that's the reason they are idiots. It's not. There just a bunch of obnoxious trolls that have made it their mission to annoy other instances.

[-] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago

I mean being a Stalinist and being an idiot are kind of one and the same are they not?

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[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

It's a lemmy instance full of edge lords who are pro-totiltarian communism. The bulk of them think Mao and Stalin were good. Deny any atrocities committed by USSR/China. Also, for some reason tend to be super pro Russia. Due to NATO being on the opposite side they support Russia and call Ukrainian/NATO nations Nazis.

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[-] TalkingCat@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

Instance is hexbear.net, check it out for yourself, doesn't work in browser for me without an account but it does work in liftoff without one for some reason.

It is weird that a lot of commenters here want to tell you what they are but don't say how to find this information by yourself.

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[-] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago

Think they’re way overhated, yes some of the users can troll a bit too much but they’re generally fine and I appreciate that they help stomp out fascist, racist, and anti-trans rhetoric on Lemmy.

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 68 points 1 year ago

In what way is sucking the Chinese Governments boot any better than Facism?

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago

Fuck the CCP

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[-] 11181514@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

They openly brigade submissions and comments on other instances and harass anyone they don't agree with. It's not just some of the users it's almost entirely the point of the community existing. Their comments are almost entirely sarcastic, and add nothing to conversation or even debate.

Feel free to show us one single instance where they "stamped out fascist, racist, [or] anti-trans rhetoric" because I don't believe you.

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[-] _Sc00ter@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I honestly have no idea what they stand for. Their posts are so confusing and non coherent. I'm sure a lot of it is because sarcasm doesn't work with text unless you have context. But without context, all it comes across as is a bunch of trolls who just love to hate

I couldn't care less about them

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[-] Gold_E_Lox 51 points 1 year ago

my problem with this thread; u can't tell who is actually communist and authoritarian, and who is just authoritarian

[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist/"Left" Authoritarian Communism is just authoritarian nationalist state capitalism that uses classist rhetoric instead of (or as well as) racist rhetoric.

And before people call me a tankie: Anything authoritarian is trash-tier shit.

[-] Album@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

Lol a tankie would never admit that. No threat of you getting called a tankie.

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago

I don't really care about the hexbears either way, the ones I've seen haven't been too bad though I've heard there are some really bad ones

What bothers me more is how quick mods seem to be to shut down any discussion about them whatsoever

Went on the Lemmy matrix to ask about them one time and I just got one guy flooding the chat with "you should observe for yourself and form your own opinions"

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[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago

Edge lords who couldn't handle someone telling them they were wrong, so they had big sook and defedederated after a day.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago

A large part of it is a fanbase of Chapo Trap House which has a particular brand of humor that is rampant with esoteric inside jokes that are vulgar as a point, let alone to the extreme.

That humor, especially without that frame of reference, usually offends your average internet denizen.

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[-] Illegal_Prime@dmv.social 31 points 1 year ago

I think it may be referring to the people who blame all social ills on “corporate greed” and think that belong leftist is exclusively being anti-capitalist. I think this may go along with some pro-Putin/pro-Xi viewpoints, possibly because they believe that “the west” is bad and capitalist, Andy anyone who opposes it is anti-capitalist and good.

I’m glad I know who these people are, so I can be more careful of them. Both here and on Reddit it felt like I was trapped in a bubble with these guys.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 48 points 1 year ago

Tankies are politically incomprehensible, because they claim to be queer-friendly communists, but support insanely queer-phobic bourgeois dictators like Xi and Putin.

They are vulnerable to the same online radicalization as alt-right bubbles. They say things that get increasingly insane, because it gets them more and more internet points and attention, until they start believing their own outrageous hyperbole.

For example, I have one tankie currently trying to unironically argue with me that the UK is a vassal state to the US Empire. Like we're living in Star wars and he's the rebel alliance that is bringing down with evil empire with lemmy shitposting.

[-] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago

At this point we need to assume they're Russian shills and the queer-friendly stuff is a ruse to have a fallback to always claim the moral high-ground

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[-] Lober@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago

Ay man if your client lets you block entire instances maybe consider blocking this one

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago

Left-wing social site (might be fedi, never bothered checking) for leftists who are way too edgy for mainstream leftist communities.

[-] GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago

Rather than edgy, they are straight up tankies (aka, russia and URSS apologists)

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