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I'm looking for something that can do chat, video calling with support for guess links and chats. I need it to work in the browser so I can send people a link to a chat session. Bonus if it has a simple mobile app and calendar integration.

Anyone know of something that isn't Nextcloud Chat?

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

There is no way to do what teams does without significant infrastructure. Same with Slack and others.

If you want something that just gets close to the mark, look at Jitsi. It's about as complete as you could expect for just video/voice.

What you may not understand about conferencing platforms is that they are dozens of different hosted services working together to provide a cohesive UE. Video, SIP, VOIP, auth, identity...these are all separate services that are deployed as microservices to get what you get. If you find the bare minimum of the services you actually need, you can probably cobble something together, but it's not going to be a simple running of one service to get the same experience.

[-] Smoolak@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I'm hosting a matrix server with a TURN server and it's fairly easy to selfhost. This sounds exaggerated.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

That just covers voice/video. OP is asking about a lot more.

[-] Colloidal@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

And chat. But yeah, no groupware.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Video+chat is all I'm wanting for the most part

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Do you need Element for that? Also is there a way to do guest access with a link?

[-] tekato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You can allow guest accounts, although it’s disabled by default in synapse.

Call supports depends on the client you’re using. Element is usually ahead in features implementation, but you can get a list of clients and filter by features in the matrix website.

Also I’m not sure what the other person meant by easy to setup. Matrix servers are notoriously hard to setup when compared to anything most things you would find yourself selfhosting, specially with WebRTC/TURN. I think there’s an ansible playbook somewhere, but I never tried it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

It isn't that hard. All I'm looking for is a chat/video call service. Jitsi is close but it purely does video calling. I want something that is a chat where guests can join a group with a link. That shouldn't take much. (It didn't with Nextcloud)

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Well if "it shouldn't take much", then it shouldn't be hard to find a solution, right?

I'm now wondering why you're here asking this question if you fully understand what you're asking about.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

It’s not hard. Just Teams but self-hosted. Free would be ideal.

/s

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right? I just want to self-host something like Google and all their services, but free. It also has to run on an AMD K6-2 with 1GB of DDR1 RAM and under 20GB for storage. Please don't ask me any questions, I know exactly what I'm doing.

[-] RaccoonBall@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Uhm actually the k6-2 took EDO or SDRAM. You won't get it running with DDR.

[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's actually not that hard. (Well it is, media and networking are hard, but)

I think the problem is that when people search for something better than Teams (or any other software), they confuse "better than", with a mostly nonexistent "best". In doing so, they skip over the way every single thing people suggest is "good enough".

Like, following this thread, we went from "I want a teams (voice/video/chat) alternative" to "Yeah I don't like Jami because it leaks metadata." How did we go from wanting a teams alternative, to wanting privacy with no metadata leakage? Those are very different things, and you make tradeoffs if you take one set of feature over the other. If you just add "no metadata leakage" on top of your current wishes, then you are probably going to be disatisfied with every option given.

Or "Firewalls and hole punching!" (implying a p2p architecture) and "depends on peers being reliable" (being frustrated with the pitfalls of a p2p architecture). Again, wtf? Of course there is software that is both p2p and client server, but that is hard and tradeoffs will end up being made, even purely in what the developer spends their limited time on.

This person just needs to get out of their head, whip up deployments for every software (or suite if there is more than one) mentioned in the thread, and pick the one that looks the nicest.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jitsi is close but it purely does video calling.

Not sure what you mean by that. Turn off the camera and you've got an audio chat.

I want something that is a chat where guests can join a group with a link.

That's exactly how Jitsi works.

Signal is not self hosted but they also support videoconference style calls.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Jitsi is closer to Zoom than anything else

I'm looking for the chat plus the ability to start a call

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I see. What about Matrix?

[-] oshu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Then write a howto instead of asking here. That shouldn't take much.

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[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 20 points 1 month ago

You want either mattermost or the whole matrix stack (backend, plus element with voice/video calls).

Matrix/Element is more of a discord alternative, whereas mattermost tries to be more of a slack alternative, where it seems to have some calendar integrations.

[-] rdschouw@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I haven’t tried it myself but Mattermost offers most of what you’re looking for.

https://github.com/mattermost

[-] rimu@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

Check out Big Blue Button - https://demo.bigbluebutton.org/

Their website talks all about using it for teaching students but it's really just like Jitsi with more features.

[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Big bluebutton is now integrated into Canvas, an open source learning management software (LMS) that every school I have went to has used.

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 points 1 month ago

Self hosting allows you to improve screen share framerate

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

We use this at work. Great for screen sharing and video chat

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Matrix with the Jitsi meet plugin.

[-] ryokimball@infosec.pub 11 points 1 month ago

I have not tried Matrix yet but I hear it's a good replacement, fashioned more to the likes of Discord but I think it has everything you're looking for

[-] nimmo@social.nimmog.uk 2 points 1 month ago

I've been using matrix for quite a while now and I'm very happy with it.

The thing to be aware of though is that it takes quite a bit of work to get started, but once you've got it up and running it doesn't need much coddling. It's got video calling built into it now and can be entirely web based if you want it to be. I have all of my signal, WhatsApp and SMS messages being brodged over through it which is handy. I've also got a discord bridge set up which will bring all DMs and let's me bridge any of the servers I want to bring over.

it's been my one app for communicating with anyone that wants to talk to me on any IM platform I use, as well as any of the federated rooms and spaces I want to access from other home servers I want to work with.

Edit: I also recently added authentication via oidc which was great as now I don't need to worry about passwords as I just authenticate with passkeys on most of my self hosted services.

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

I think Mattermost is intended to be just that.

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Huly is pretty amazing and has a self host option. It supports chats and video calls, team rooms, and has some cool integration for speech to text note taking. It also functions as a task tracker.

Under super active development right now so host only if you can deal with occasional breaking changes.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 1 month ago

Idk, I've heard things about HooliChat... Didn't their stream go down in the middle of a big title fight?

[-] adhocfungus@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

Plus that Gavin Belson guy keeps trying to jam his horrible signature into his products.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago

That guy is the woooorst

[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I've been using self-hosted Jitsi Meet for a few weeks now. Works perfectly. Haven't tried the calendar feature, though.

[-] inso@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago
[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jitsi

,but it is a pain in the ass to selfhost with good performance.

You can take a look here as well:

https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted?tab=readme-ov-file#communication---video-conferencing

One alternative that is not on the awesome selfhosted list is: https://edumeet.org/

But it is even more of a PAIN to selfhost it.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Anyone know of something that isn't Nextcloud Chat?

Do you absolutely need to put ONE tag on it all and say this is it?

[-] nixxo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I use jami but i dont think it fits your need for guess links.

Still leave it here just in case

https://jami.net/

Jami is a free/libre, end-to-end encrypted, and private communication software.

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[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

I already made a comment but you should also look at rocketchat and revolt, since they are basically FOSS discord clones

(I saw comments in the thread about wanting audio only calls.)

[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

If you don't mind seperated tools that do well in their own :

  • Zulip for chat
  • Jitsi for video meeting
  • And whatever calendar you want for the calendar
[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

I R fucking C. Who needs all the other garbage in teams?

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