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[-] mvuvi@baraza.africa 55 points 2 years ago

But who, exactly, is supposed to create this “niche content” for them? I think this is something we underestimate—large swaths of people see themselves as consumers of quality content. It is not for them to bring in comments or interesting finds to the communities. This I think is what makes the internet ripe for centralization. You can’t be a non-paying consumer and choose your menu. You can pay with your behavior datapoints and get fads packaged to you, or you can help create an ecosystem where you don’t have to be spied on every click and tap of the day. Choose your path and make peace with it. The worst would be to help create content for a community and be spied while at it.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago

When Lemmy has a critical mass to support communities that aren’t the main ones the niche content will come.

It’ll just take time.

There’s no rush because reddit is not getting better.

Lemmy will only improve with more people who will come after each successive reddit fuck up.

Reddit didn’t start with niche communities, that was the tail end of years of community building.

[-] mvuvi@baraza.africa 13 points 2 years ago

Agree with you.

One thing I have always found precious for my 10+ yrs on forums like reddit and 3+ yrs on fediverse is how high quality conversations are by people who usually don’t obsess about numbers and publicity in likes and upvotes etc.

Genuine communities here on the fediverse will evolve at their own pace.

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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

To Reddit? No. They fucked up RIF, and that's how I browsed.

[-] oneshibbyguy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I still use rif. Patch it with revanced

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[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

What's a reddit? I used baconreader but that doesn't exist anymore.

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[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

Both suck.

Reddit has the base and the niche communities and the activity, but is scummy for its own reasons.

Lemmy has the structure/organization but none of the niche interest activity that kept me on Reddit for so long. Plus it's got all the weird pro china shit and an even worse problem with the hive mind bullshit than Reddit.

With the death of third party apps, I would say that my time that was formerly spent on Reddit is now spent 10% still on Reddit, 15-20% on Lemmy, and the rest just isn't spent on that sort of thing anymore.

I've been reading more, maybe a 2-5% increase on Facebook of all places, going to the source for news (Axios, Washington Post mostly), gaming with the computer time, maybe a 15% increase on YouTube time...started streaming more shows and stuff, and spent more time outside, even in the sweltering summer heat.

So basically for me, Lemmy has turned out to not be a reddit replacement, and instead that time has just been split up many different ways.

I do miss Reddit, and wish that Lemmy had indeed been a workable alternative, but it's just not. I won't go back to Reddit because I accessed it 95% on a mobile 3rd party app...but just because I won't go back doesn't mean that Lemmy is just as good.

As time goes on, I'm starting to realize that the time I still spend here is mostly because I want it to be better and I'm trying to be active long enough to see that change happen...but the longer I just kill time here waiting for it, the more I see shit I don't like.

I would expect that while I'll still keep my account open, I'll probably be done with Lemmy by the end of the year.

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

I feel most of these issues are just due to how small the userbase is.

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[-] woeboet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I just see too much of the same posts and I'm not sure if it's a user issue or not sometimes i reopen the front page after 3 days and 25% of the posts I've already seen plus a lot of posts are about reddit anyway :(

6/10

[-] Trarmp@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago

Thing is that is a fixable problem. It's technologically very possible to set up a simple algorithm to try to get like 3-5 posts max from one community, have them be as recent as possible, and return the most popular ones.

Reddit has a problem that is rooted much more deeply; their CEO.

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[-] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago

Lemmy reminds so much of the beginnings of Reddit when I started there over 17 years ago.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago

Totally. I can only see it improving from here. It's clear there are tons of committed users, one's that will continue posting for years to come.

I am one of them.

[-] flameguy21@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Honestly kinda cool that I recognize a few recurring people

[-] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The cat heavy content is a throwback lol

[-] ljdawson@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

A bit of downtime is good. Gives me chance to work on Sync until the next wave joins.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago

Me: I am the niche content now. Starts up 10 communities and actually posts to them.

Like, I need help, I can't keep this pace of posting up forever... Please contribute!

[-] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I’m not a creator (certainly not very good at it anyway) but I do my best to engage with content and comment. Especially those lonely, lowly posts with little traction.

I admit when I join a community and I frequently see only one poster, I pretty much assume it’s dead and move on.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lemmy does have the unfortunate problem, that even if you sub to a community, you wont necessarily see the posts from it if you also sub to something big. The bigger community just completely drowns out the smaller one in your feed.

Hopefully this gets addressed in how sorting works, but for now it's preventing small communities from getting engagement.

I'm sorta gaming the system by posting regularly, and just, more. I'm basically edging on spamming, but this results in there always being a post fresh enough to be in people's feeds. This leads to discovery, if not engagement. I also have alts across the big instances, from which I sub to my own communities to increase the reach of the community when it's new. They have to manually be subbed to by a first user, to get federated to new instances and show up in all, otherwise.

This is how I got !gameart@sopuli.xyz off the ground. Approaching 1k subs now.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

The lack of niche communities is one thing, but the real long term drag is the fact that most of this place is just c/Linux or c/linuxmemes even if it's just c/memes or literally any community.

Can't go anywhere without some "Microsoft bad, Chromium bad" content or comments clogging everything up. Keep that shit in the places it belongs or you're going to see more people abandon the site as they realize it's all just the same people with the same three interests in every place.

That and it really feels like the worst of reddit came here, I've seen people get downvoted to hell over obvious misinterpretation of their comments by people who have almost zero reading comprehension skills.

Lemmy needs to fix its shit.

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[-] maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm playing both sides so I always come out on top.

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[-] EtherealMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

It's a bit disappointing that most of the communities for specific content are so inactive on here, but I still prefer it to the types of banal, waste-of-time, repetitive content and comments that plague reddit and have caused my eyes to roll in a tailspin.

Do I really have to choose one or the other, though?

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[-] SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

I like motorcycles and assholes, I have a hard time not going back to reddit.

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[-] phil299@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I am just never going back, lemmy has less content of course but the comments on what is here is just a totally different level, reddit just feels dirty and corrupt in comparison,

[-] lesteross@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I'm really trying to be positive, guys. I'm daily driving Lemmy, watching all the content here. I've only logged to reddit once thinking "at least old.reddit.com works", and it does, but after clicking on posts it goes back to new so I said "screw it" and I'm sticking with Lemmy for now. But all communities I've followed on Reddit are either small, non-existent, or just bots reposting Reddit posts. I know about this site, and I'm guessing a lot of you too, by googling "reddit alternative". Hate on Reddit will only get you so far. Maybe I'm wrong here, but in my opinion main problem of Lemmy is a lack of reach. I like Lemmy and I'll definitely stick with it, but I don't think it will be as big as reddit. Lemmy needs something that would make people go to it, and "it's not reddit" is not enough.

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[-] Brekky@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

It's good for me, keeps me online for about an hour before I go out and get an irl life

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[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I used to use Sync for Reddit. Now that you can use Sync for Lemmy, it's easy for me.

[-] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah I really miss my niche porn

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[-] Casey_Masterpiece@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

The only reason I left is removal of third party apps. The more Lemmy users shit on the rest of it the more likely I am to return occasionally on desktop cause it makes me think people here dont want the same things I want, or actually have problems with the things I want.

[-] Master@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I check out reddit every few days and tbh lemmy has the same amount of mainstream content. The only difference is that reddit niche subs are more active.

I think the fact that anyone can make the same community on a new instance diminishes niche communities more. If I pick a game on reddit ill find 2 or so instances with lots of use. On lemmy there will be 10 communities all mostly abandoned.

You can feel a difference on reddit though. Quality content and content numbers are greatly reduced from even a month ago.

[-] abraxas@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

With the exception of a few of the "grad" communities, Lemmy has just been a whole lot less toxic. I don't deny occasionally slipping back into reddit for exactly two subs that don't seem to have any chance of taking off in Lemmy. But Lemmy has really killed my reddit urge permanently. Every time I enter reddit, I see a message trolling or attacking me or whatever.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I constantly see super mega niche communities here. To the point that it is completely absurd, like a "memes with black and white pictures, no text and 2 emojis" community would be. What is up with that? Everyone on Lemmy has his own "community" or what is this nonsense?

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

There are a few very active users who have started up their own favourite thing, and are single handedly posting content to them, breathing life into the subject on lemmy.

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[-] Boi@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago

I will probably leave eventually. I won't go anywhere else. I'm pairing down my social media. More specifically the ones that i use too much. I want to keep it for a few more months and see not some kind "shiny new toy" thing.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

I can't go back. I was ina ban purge and I wasn't even a mod.

[-] jacktherippah@lemdro.id 7 points 2 years ago

You'll be back, soon you'll see, you'll remember that you belong to me 🎶

[-] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Nah. I think I'll stay.

I, a manifest Redditor, have sat down, and shall refuse to go back to the empire. I have satted, and shall remain seated.

For all those returning to the grave where the Snoo once stood, good luck. I hear the bots are awful this time of year.

[-] Wussy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Isn't Lemmy itself niche?

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 years ago

I'd love to see more niche communities, but honestly I mostly just accepted it as is. I needed less time on social media anyways so it works for me.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'm a filthy casual but I'll be staying here. Reddit is a prime example of what happens when corporations get to decide what free speech is, and what happens when companies founded with good intentions sell out.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty much off reddit entirely. Popped back the other day to ask a question to a sub that doesn't exist here. I'm on this too much anyway but there little to zero content a lot of the time.

I'm trying to think what it is that I used to comment on in reddit. I can post the exact same articles but it's the comments that make the feed and the comments are because of the range of people.

Numbers are what make it good and ultimately bad as well. You need users to create the content but then you get too many and it becomes too big.

Gotta be a sweet spot and ai in all it's magnificence should be able to work it out

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