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It’s almost like the good ol’ days of install fests and the like! ‘End of 10’ is an organization that’s making it easy for Windows 10 users with computers that can’t upgrade to Windows 11, to install Linux instead of sending good hardware to the landfill.

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[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Never felt so much more in control than when ditching Windows and installing first Linux Mint and later Kubuntu. Gonna try Arch in the future to feel like a god and completely in control over what happens on my machine.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 17 hours ago

that trajectory leads to Antix to give you full control over every decision and then from there to debian or devuan because all that decision making is exhausting, can't the machine just work and only update when there's security patches?

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 44 points 4 days ago

Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last Windows? I 'member.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 25 points 4 days ago

I was for many of us. So, they were not totally wrong.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So much this. I had dabbled with Linux on various sbc knockoff raspberry pis and put one distro on an old netbook that I gave to a friend. Now my main laptop is going full penguin.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 4 days ago

They didn't. They said it was the last version of windows you'd ever need.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Technically, they didn’t, they just never corrected someone who did, and it spread far.

[-] Ravenfreak@discuss.online 28 points 4 days ago

I'm glad people are helping others move to Linux once the EOL support for Windows 10 comes. There's no reason for good hardware to end up rotting in a landfill. Not only can people use these machines still, it helps the environment since there's less electronics wasting away in landfills since most people don't properly recycle electronics.

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[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Hopefully many more Windows refugees would embrace the Kingdom of Torvalds.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Show me how to use the Xbox app in Linux and I will switch today.

[-] merci3@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

But isnt this like asking "Show me how to run Nintendo Services on the PS5 and I will switch"?

Windows has it's own ecosystem just as much as Linux has it's own ecosystem, so expecting Linux to run everything Microsoft is kinda of unreasonable IMO.

To switch an OS also means to switch an ecosystem. You wouldn't move from Android to iOS expecting it to run Android's .apk, right?

I'm not criticizing you tho, if a service you rely on doesnt work on Linux, then Linux isnt for you, and you're free to use Windows, an OS is just a tool after all 😁

[-] carrion0409@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

I dual boot at this point. I have a POP_OS! nvme where I do normal pc stuff and maybe some light single player gaming, then I boot into my windows ssd for the heavier anticheat stuff. Imma be completely honest though. For most people I recommend just upgrading to windows 11 if you can. Linux is great but I think if someone just cares about gaming they should stick to windows.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

My gaming computer under my TV is windows 10. My laptop where I do adult things is Linux mint. It's a valid strategy

[-] merci3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Completely valid take. I think that most Linux gamers dual boot (at least inside my circle of friends) (but no me tho, I'm Linux exclusive!) I think that when people doscuss Linix vs Windows, they often forget that you dont necessarily need to get rid of one system in favor of the other, you can simply integrate Linux into your workflow.

[-] carrion0409@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I wish I could be linux exclusive. But my friends and I play games that wont work properly under it. Recently we've been really into halo infinite but that game just doesnt work well under linux. I do plan on building an all amd system this fall so thatll be a big help towards fully jumping to linux for me but for now dual booting is my strategy. Im sure ill make someone mad with how I go about things but its what works for my use case.

[-] merci3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I think one of the reasons why I can do gaming exclusively on Linux is because I hardly play competitive games, so I didnt miss Valorant, League of Legends, Apex and the like. But it's still a reeeeal shame that these games insists on blocking Linux tho.

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[-] Mallspice@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

Game pass not worth supporting shitty behavior over.

[-] arararagi@ani.social 5 points 3 days ago

Gamepass was made to have you in the ecosystem so you really can't, and I don't blame you since it helps with these expensive games like the new Doom

[-] seralth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Out of curiosity what even does someone use that app for. Iv always just turned it on on my windows installs. It always just breaks and caused me issues. Or performed worse then just other apps for the same job.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I play XBox games on my computer. My computer is more than 10x faster then my XBox so games often play way better.

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[-] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Among lot of distro, Linux mint has to be the closest to windows and more refined

[-] Gibibit@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

endof10.org seems like a good website to direct people to via posters in your local community center or church. Or you can call a repair club in your area to ask if they want to be listed. Those are likely to have some Linux enthousiast members and already have a location.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 35 points 5 days ago

Im hearing proton is good for games?

[-] binom@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

i second @FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee
it's fantastic for like 85% of all games, and good to acceptable for like 10%. the only big issue is games with kernel level anti cheats, which is a problem for some gamers, mainly AAA and fps lovers.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 31 points 5 days ago

Games with kernal anti-cheat should be treated with precisely the level of respect they show to us.

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[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 24 points 5 days ago

It’s fantastic. Unless you’re playing a specific few multiplayer competitive games, it’s just like windows (sometimes even better in terms of performance - and sometimes better in terms of retro compatibility)

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[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 days ago

Part of me still does not think Microsoft is going to go through with it. There are too many Windows 10 PCs that will just become infected.

Part of me thinks the government will intervene as I think it could genuinely be a security issue to have so many unsecured devices in the wild.

But, another part of me has no hope for the future.

Sooo... I guess we will just have to wait and see.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 32 points 5 days ago

Sadly people said the same for xp and 7 soo...

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[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

Once it goes eol, get it off the network. But lots of other good ideas already in here.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

It really needs to be made louder that if you are stuck on 10 that you should not let it have internet access

[-] monotremata@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

Unless you switch to IoT LTSC, which will continue to get security updates until 2032. It's kinda bullshit that they're still making the security patches and then just refusing to give them to consumer 10 users.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Your average user should not be on that

[-] monotremata@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I guess I sort of agree? It's a bit tricky to get it set up, for sure. Even just installing windows is probably beyond the average user, and this has a few more quirks and gotchas than normal.

E.g., in IoT LTSC 11 (which is what I'm actually currently using), when you connect a controller, it'll bring up an error message about not having a handler for ms-gamebar, and fixing that calls for regedit. (One it's fixed, though, it stays fixed.) It also got itself into a bit of a weird state during the initial installation where it wanted me to log in with a kind of account I don't have, and while I was able to bypass that, I don't think I did it in quite the right way, and it broke something in the install and I had to do an in-place repair install to fix it before it would install certain updates successfully. It was also failing to download the in-place repair install, so I had to look up how to do it manually using the install DVD I'd burned previously. But that fixed it, and it's been fine since.

So, yeah, it's got pitfalls and quirks and glitches. That's also been my experience with other Windows installs, though, so it didn't seem all that different in general.

But once you get those initial hurdles sorted out, it's really just like normal Windows. Better, even, since it doesn't have all the cruft built into it, like Cortana, Teams, OneDrive, start menu ads, nag screens about upgrading to 11, the Microsoft Store, etc. (Though you can add most of those if you really want them.) My aging parents aren't willing to upgrade to 11 because they're afraid too many things will have changed, and I'm thinking I'll probably switch them to 10 IoT LTSC instead. I'll just have to be careful to make sure everything they want to do works before I leave them to it. It still gets monthly security updates and everything.

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[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

I'm doing my part!

I've loaded Mint on my prime system and a laptop, another laptop with Fedora, Manjaro on another main system I test with and EndeavorOS on all my media systems. I've also loaded about 8-10 other distros on Proxmox to play/test with.

Where I had doubts on whether I needed anything off of the old MS system, I P2V'ed the OS and spool it up on Proxmox if needed to review any history within the OS/browser.

I still have a couple of W10 VMs lingering and a Windows server. I'll "upgrade" the workstation VMs to W11 (and shut them down) since I have the license and I can see sometimes having to use Windows for whatever dumb reasons. I'll leave the Windows server for now to maintain the domain as that allows me to block telemetry with GPOs. I may tire of that at some point though as MS will further wane away on my network.

My summer task is to convert all my 'Arrr software over to Linux versions. Still on W10 there. Wasn't sure which distro to go to for that....

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[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

Quick question. I have a studio pc running win 10, with dozens of audio and video projects. It's basically impossible to transfer to Linux, macOs or even win 11 since it involves a ton of audio plugins, etc. and my projects would become unsable.

What does end of supports involve for me? I actually disable updates and a while back since it was sometimes screwing things up. My most recent projects are done either on my M1 mac (work thing) or my most recent.Linux station on Nobara. Should I be worried about anything? Should I disconnect my old studio pc from the internet to avoid it being fucked by microsoft?

[-] noxilus@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago

Get the w10 enterprise edition that gets patched for 4 more years.

[-] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 10 points 4 days ago

You should back up your windows 10 pc as an image and use it as a virtual machine on the Mac or some other Linux environment. Once support stops nothing really bad would happen, besides security stuff and maybe perhaps some unexpected hugs. So you could just disconnect it from the internet too but the VM option isn’t reliant on the hardware which could go bad.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

And even if you don't want to... Find someone who does! Donate that laptop to someone. Find a LUG or Mutual Aid group or a friendly local anarchist :)

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[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Been on Linux full time for al about 2 months now... Proton and Bazzite have made the transition soooo much easier as gaming is what was always holding me back.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Whatever will I do without my deshittified emotional support laptop :'(

[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

I upgraded my Win 10 laptop to IoT Enterprise LTSC recently which is stupidly easy and grants you support till 2032.

Aside from some weird app incompatibilities it's been working fine.

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