If the only point you can make is picking apart that LLMs don't "count" as AI, then sorry mate but 2022 called, ot wants it's discussion back.

No one really cares about this distinction anymore. It's like literally vs figuratively.

LLMs are branded under the concept of AI, arguing it doesn't count is not a discussion people really care about anymore in the industry.

Thats like saying search engines dont exist.

AI definitely exists. Its basically just a slightly faster way to get code from stack exchange, except with less context and more uncertainty

"AI" is a very broad term. Back when I went to university, my AI course started out with Wumpus World. While this is an extremely simple problem, it's still considered "AI".

The enemies in computer games that are controlled by the computer are also considered "AI".

Machine learning algorithms, like recommender algorithms, and image recognition are also considered "AI"

LLMs like ChatGPT and Claude are also "AI"

None of these things are conscious, self aware or intelligent, yet they are part of the field called "AI".

These are however not "AGI" (Artificial General Intelligence). AGI is when the machine becomes conscious, and self aware. This is the scenario that all the sci-fi movies portray. We are still very far away from this stage.

Well there's a huge difference between "slop" and actually fine code.

As long as the domain space isn't super esoteric, and the framework is fairly mature, most LLMs will generate not half bad results, enough to get you 90% of the way there.

But then that last 10% of refining amd cleaning up the code, fixing formatting issues, tweaking names, etc is what seperates the slop for them "you can't even tell an AI helped with this" code

I have projects that prolly a good 5% to 10% of the code is AI generated, but you'd never know cuz I still did a second pass over it to sanity check and make sure its good

The credit should go to the author on stack exchange.

A piece of code I struggled with for days and some vibe-coded slop look identical in a PR.

TBF that doesn't say much for your coding.

Just because people use generated slop, that doesn't mean "AI" exists, much less that it's making valuable contributions beyond summarizing/plagarizing Stackexchange.

I work at a very big company with humdreds of debelopers.

We gotamdatory training awhile ago, and it's now very much normalized as a concept.

It's no longer a question of does a dev use it, it's a question of how much

Some use it rarely, others a lot.