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[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

If the other person can't follow your train of thought, it can feel as though the emotional and cognitive connection/trust that was built in the conversation was abandoned along with the previous context. This can happen when there is a non-trivial jump in context between ideas.

Steering the conversation can be done by introducing intermediary steps that are connected to the previous topic in a self-evident way. This maintains that cognitive and emotional connection/trust because you are showing that you value the other person's understanding and participation.

Figuring out what "non-trivial" or "self-evident" means is probably the hard part but you'd probably want to consider each step in, for example:

Grass, meadow, forest, tree, timber, log truck, mill, paper, exports, shipping dock, ocean, ice caps, ice bergs, titantic, James Cameron, Michael bay, transformers.

You could probably go from each one to the next trivially, steering the conversation from grass to meadow and so on through the list. But to go from grass to transformers without intermediate ideas truly makes absolutely no sense.

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Neurotypicals don’t have “trains of thought” they have “teleporters of thought”

[-] sonic_veemo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

ime they simply don’t think

[-] SpaceDuck@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

It may be more extreme, but fairly often with conversations with my wife, after a while we’re like: “How did we end up at this topic” and then we can backtrack it a number of steps to see how we got at a completely different topic.

It’s kind of like clicking through Wikipedia, you open a page and a few subpages, some of those have different interesting subjects and somehow you went from pollination to ancient Mesopotamian mythology.

I think we’re both fairly “NT” but just curious.

No, their thoughts terminate at the natural end point and neurodivergent people’s brains do not seem to do this.

[-] Zorsith 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This implies an endpoint to a thought process, that cant be right.

Edit: oh god we're all recursive with unknown exit conditions

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

as i child i used to play a mind game with myself when i was bored. i'd think of two random things and try to find a string of associations that connect the two. i was born being a nerd, playing the wikipedia game before i knew how to read

my thoughts simply do not stop

[-] brian@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

My game was sorta the opposite. After letting my mind wander for an undetermined amount of time, I would try and backtrack as far back as I could. I didn't usually make it back more than a few steps, but finding that "first" thought was always satisfying.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago

I have this wonderful habit of coming to a satisfactory conclusion, only to find I've forgotten what the topic I was contemplating was. 10/10, awesome way to live life.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

You'd probably love psilocybin.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

I mean, my last sentence was pure sarcasm, but I'm sure I would.

[-] Zorsith 2 points 3 days ago

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The feeling of satisfaction is nice to think back on, even if you have can't remember what it was for or about anymore

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Oh my god you people sound so boring

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