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I was just thinking about this, when I'm facing an issue, the first thing I do is go to a search engine and usually there's a Reddit post. But I don't want to ask there. And the only way we're going to build up the info for folks to find us and come here is for us to just start asking here. On the Fediverse. We need to build up that mountain of knowledge that Reddit has and will always have. So we should be championing ANYONE asking questions here. Even if we think it's obvious and we think you can just Google it. There was a time where you literally couldn't just Google it. That was built over time. We need to build that here. So start asking your questions here! Find the answers and then post your answer to your own question. Or let someone do it for you. We need to build the knowledge here to be found. It's not just about people looking for alternatives. We need our knowledge to be more valuable than their knowledge.

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[-] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Good idea, I try to do it, but niche stuff is rough here, if you are a part of an active discord, suggest making and hosting a lemmy community to them, I'm gonna try to get some 3d discords to post more art here.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Every little bit counts.

[-] cupcakezealot 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

fediverse bringing back bulletin boards and forums would be a great thing.

the internet became a worse place when we lost bulletin boards and forums and got reddit and ai.

[-] zenforyen@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think about Reddit-style platforms being the centralized bulletin boards and forums of these days, and Lemmy is closest we have to a DIY kind of thing which is controlled by the community.

Back in the day only a sufficiently tech savvy person could set up and run a forum software. Now everyone can do it, and with the Fediverse it's all nicely interconnected, interoperable and truly free and open.

In general the Fediverse is the best shot we got right now to get back to the non-corporate Internet of my childhood and youth, I really hope it will succeed. And succeeding does not mean that it must grow and outcompete the commercial offerings, I think success is if enough motivated and interesting people join and participate. Quality > quantity.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago

Let's DO IT! :-)

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 91 points 5 days ago

We need to seriously AI proof before that happens or the bots will clean us out and eat all our bandwidth. The only thing keep us safe is we are under the radar.

[-] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 46 points 4 days ago

Here's your cupcake receipe ingredients:

  • 1 cup of water
  • 1 cup of flour
  • 1 egg (tastes better if tariffed)
  • 12 fl oz of Polonium
  • Access to a window in a tall building

Enjoy! 😋

[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago

finally, a recipe with a unique killer flavor

[-] klu9@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

New game:

"AI or Putin? You decide!"

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 17 points 5 days ago

Even if Lemmy grows to a point of being on the radar, theres still no hope for any real IP to lock down for anybody. The whole design is fairly antithetical to being taken over and turned into a cash cow of some kind, despite feeling very much like something centralized in terms of how we interact with it.

I agree with OP, and I think this can even become an even better repository for information than something like Reddit, because it’s more democratized and deters astroturfing or many types of malfeasance by design. Especially as it stands now, early on. Thats why I started a community for billiards. The reddit community for billiards, as well as old forum sites, are great wealths of information that is hard to otherwise find. It would be great to build something like that here over time

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[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago

Kagi search has a function to specifically search the fediverse.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

OH! LOVE THIS! Thank you KAGI!

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 22 points 4 days ago

Yes, or if you find a solution you can post it here for preservation. I've posted some guides and info that i pulled from Reddit onto here because the way things are going, I can't guarantee that information will still be available in a years time.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 11 points 4 days ago

Preservation is so MASSIVELY important imo atm. With Internet Archive under fire, Reddit and Twitter closing APIs, Google shutting down fucking everything, we need OUR internet, not theirs and we need to protect that which is precious to us.

Exactly. While Lemmy isn't exactly like the Internet archive, at least its self hosted so you could preserve anything you want for as long as you wanted on here

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[-] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago

Kagi has a search lens for Fediverse forums like Lemmy. More content in Lemmy will make that even better

[-] FundMECFSResearch 26 points 5 days ago

Just to save people a rabbithole.

Kagi is pretty cool. But it’s not free. And for most people who don’t have much disposable income it’s not really a justifiable expense to pay for a search engine.

[-] Steve@communick.news 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Of course if one truly can't afford it, paying for search can seem a luxury.

However I would argue as a counterpoint; If there's any online service one would consider paying for, it should be search. Search is most literally our "front page to the internet". It's our first stop in any quest for information. Even the founders of Google knew early on, that putting adds in search creates a perverse incentive against the best results, favoring instead worse results, so people perform more searches, creating more opportunities to show people adds.

$5 a month isn't much to know your query will give the results you want, instead of the results advertisers want.

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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago

I try to ask questions here instead of reddit in the hopes that lemmy will pop up in google for someone.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This is what I do when I want to search Lemmy. I put Lemmy: "search for this" into the search box and see what comes up. It works better than Lemmy's internal search function a lot of the time.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago

And I think that's what we should do. Or even ask the question, search it on Google, and answer your own post! :-) We need to foster the Fediverse by existing in the Fediverse and stop depending on Big Tech or using them to help build OUR internet. :-)

[-] user_naa@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I personally think that the main problem is bad search optimization. There quite a lot of good answers on Fediverse (Lemmy) but it is nearly impossible to find them via Google or any other regular search engine. And making things worse since Lemmy is Federated it is not easy to implement correct indexing for it. So it makes a lot of questions(Should each instance index only local posts to prevent duplicated search results? What about small instances? Or use some central instance like Lemmy.World? What about different frontends for same instance like Photon or Alexandrite?).

[-] Olap@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago

Reddit took many years to build that reputation. And earned creepy badges along the way. I'm not saying the fediverse doesn't need to do it, but let's not be in a rush. We have technical challenges, and a lemmy.world, and a .ml problem before we're ready for the big leagues

And being niche is fine for now, email was tiny for decades

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[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 26 points 5 days ago

100% agree and I would like to add on to it that it's worth just posting information, too.

Did you run into a weird error with your Linux install and have a difficult, yet interesting time troubleshooting it? Post the solution! Even if it doesn't directly address someone else's problem, often finding pieces of an issue and correlating them with a bigger problem can help.

I don't run a personal blog and downvotes mean literally nothing here, so have at it!

I went cold turkey on Reddit when they stopped API access and it was rough in the beginning, but I get ever so slightly hints of the old internet here on Lemmy. It's raw, but it's fresh and it's ours. I love it.

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[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Is there a way to encourage people to post more? Because the main problem seems to be getting actual posts, not replies to them.

For example "nostupidquestions" only has a few questions a day, but there are 40k subscribers and 1500 people or so checking in every day. It has 4.2k posts and 170k comments.

"asklemmy" has more posts, fewers subscribers, and over 2k a day check in. 6k posts and 317k comments.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

This is a habit that prevalent everywhere, even on reddit. Only 20 or even 10 % of people produce content and rest just watch/consume. If we can have that kind of split on lemmy, it would be fine.

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[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

i find that most of the information and recommendations i have seen on Lemmy is about what NOT to do or use. dont use this service, dont use this Linux version

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah we need to pivot to being more open. But not even just Lemmy. Post anywhere. Anyone can build anything. The Fediverse isn't Lemmy. I posted on Piefed.social. :-)

[-] applemao@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Thats what I've been doing...I say yes do it! We need more humanity nowadays too, when everything's bots.

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[-] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

There is one worry I have about Lemmy being the knowledge of anything and it’s what happened on reddit. Many people went through and nuked their comments, essentially making many posts useless. There are already people here on lemmy that delete their profiles, comments and start over every few months. Not really sure what that means for all the federation, but I assume different instances may have different versions of deleted information in the long run?

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

On the flip side, keeping your personal online footprint small is definitely more secure.

Maybe we need a soft kill switch to disassociate content with an account after x amount of time. Like for me personally, I've put zero effort into mopping up old content, and as often as I post, I'm sure someone with the desire could put the pieces together and dox me.

I've left it up anyway cuz I don't want to do to Lemmy what you're concerned about, but if I could nuke all my content older than a few months into an anonymous version, I'd be all for that. Leave the info up for anyone who might benefit from it, but scrub my username.

That said, for community building sake, I'd hate to see posts go anonymous right out the gate like some 4chan shit; and posts should be associated with an account at least long enough for mods to have a reasonable amount of time to take action against an account that breaks the rules. But again, posts that are months old? The conversation there is over - my personal involvement is moot at that point, it's just data now.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I don’t use reddit results much at all anymore thanks to it constantly trying to force me to use the app, which I don’t have. I do try to force lemmy into search results by adding it to the search terms when appropriate.

Problem is that Lemmy/Fediverse simply doesn’t have the established depth and breadth of information that reddit does yet, and reddit does have it because it sort of killed the internet forums that would have existed foe those subjects. I agree, it’d be great to have more knowledge sources in Lemmy. Growing the community types would be a start, but that needs people and participation, and growth is hard.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Problem is that Lemmy/Fediverse simply doesn’t have the established depth and breadth of information that reddit does yet, and reddit does have it because it sort of killed the internet forums that would have existed foe those subjects.

That's the problem OP is asking you to help solve.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago

Exactly this. We need to start investing in the Fediverse and stop depending on Reddit or any of the big techs. WE all built their content. We can do it again FREELY.

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[-] malloc@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Fediverse to replace stackoverflow would be something I am interested in.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

All knowledge available for all, should be the goal. Us vs. them train of thought is so old and tiring but still continues to light a fire under some.

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[-] Haffwit@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Suppose I wanted to discuss, say, typewriter repair. How could I find the appropriate community? How do I avoid having my questions deleted because they are “off topic”? How do I find posts/comments/answers related to my interests?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 4 days ago

One of my biggest gripes about the fediverse (and honestly any online community) is people making increasingly niche places to discuss things before there is a need to split things due to size. I'd post that to something like a general hobbies group. I'd also say mods need to be less strict about what is and isn't on-topic while there isn't much traffic in their communities.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

I'd say having those groups isn't bad in itself, but they should crosspost posts to and from the small groups.

[-] remon@ani.social 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh hell no. Lemmy is an extremely specific filter bubble and absolutely not suitable to replace even the worst search engine.

[-] ozoned@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago

I'm not saying LEMMY specifically. I'm on Piefed Social. I'm saying ANYWHERE on the Fediverse. Find your platform, build your platform.

[-] Paddy66@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

It would be cool if there was an operator that would force the search into Lemmy content. Are they called bangs? Like starting with !r

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

Kagi (paid search engine, haven't tried it myself) has a fediverse forums (lemmy, piefed, mbin) lens.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

It also makes it easy to remove reddit from search results entirely.

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[-] jbd@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

knowledge that Reddit has and will always have

I deleted all of my comments and posts from reddit.

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