The US is Fanning the Flames of War with China (truthout.org)

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[-] Blake@feddit.uk 106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Clearly everyone should just let China do whatever they want to avoid war, if we appease them by expanding their territorial claims and avoiding conflict then surely everything will be fine. The politics of appeasement has historically been very successful.

Edit: Stop replying please, I don’t want to waste any more time arguing with y’all.

[-] ensignrick@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 71 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

So first, the US having military bases surrounding China is tied into why they disagree with their neighbors. They allowed the US on the boarder so it makes sense they aren't stoked about it. The US has at least 750 military bases around the world in 80 countries. The next closest country has 145 bases and thats the UK. If we want to reference imperialism, then starting with the US is the most practical based on this alone.

In addition, only 12 countries consider Taiwan as an independent country. Regardless if this is correct, the actions the US has recently taken with Taiwan is without question increasing tension in an already tense situation.

Furthermore, following the numbers on the Uyghur women being forced to have contraception implants would mean each woman has 8 impants. This makes absolute zero sense. The fact the US media's primary source on the Uyghur situation is an outright lunatic does help make it all add up though.

All in all, it takes two to tango for sure. Yet the US seeing it's global power drastically decline makes their moves less obfuscated and vividly more desperate.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 33 points 2 years ago

It’s not imperialism when the bases are invited and accepted. These bases open up because the host nations are worried about China and the US is the only country that has the scale to oppose a murderous regime from dominating the region.

It’s not that the US hasn’t also done bad things - it’s that they’re seen as a safer bet, despite those bad things, for those countries maintaining their independence.

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

Ah, there's the lemmy.ml tankies trying to obfuscate China's human rights abuses.

[-] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

If you're concerned about human rights, why gloss over the US being notorious for human rights abuse? They have the largest prison population ever, comprised primarily of minorities who were obscenely experimented on during MK Ultra. Plus the prior and current treatment of Native Americans or the 6,000,000+ innocent citizens killed in the war on terror. The US is no longer even classified as a first world country. But it doesn't matter cause the news said the US is definitely the best choice for the world police.

Are you for bombing Mexico to stop the opioid crisis too? While the idea is gaining traction stateside, it takes minutes to understand of the 14,000+ pounds of fentanyl seized at the Mexican boarder in 2022, over 90% was from US citizens. But logic is totally overrated when it comes to international law I guess.

[-] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago

The Americans doing bad shit doesn't make it alright for China and Russia to do the same bad shit. Is it alright to keep slaves just because the yanks used to do it too? Is torturing and executing prisoners acceptable behaviour to you?

[-] mashbooq@infosec.pub 18 points 2 years ago

What about, what about

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[-] deft@ttrpg.network 14 points 2 years ago

nah fuck China y'all simp for them

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[-] blazera@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago

Taiwan is a sovereign nation

[-] TomHardy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Hogwarts School of Witchcraft is a boarding school for wizards.

Same energy in this statement.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

Your crowd loves strawmen so much.

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[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

containment, encirclement, etc

Exactly what Russia said pre February 2022

How weak do you have to be that sailing boats 100 mi from your shores is an act of war, and by the way, if it is an act of war there’s a concerning lack of response to it

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[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago

I didn't know Truthout was a CCP propaganda outlet. Glad to know.

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