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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pr_V8rtzrE

A month ahead of Switch 2's global release, we accidentally bought a real motherboard of Switch 2! We decided to reverse-engineer its NVIDIA SoC, and reveal the spces of its CPU and GPU, even head to a FIB-SEM to ensure its process node! We'd also simulate the performance on a similar PC to see how powerful is Switch 2. Stay tuned!

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[-] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

[-] tobz619@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don't have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren't phones or pseudocomputers and don't cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

[-] 7arakun@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

[-] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I'm taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

[-] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly

Maybe even a bit of PS3!

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

https://www.goretroid.com/products/retroid-pocket-4-handheld

Can play gamecube/wii games and most ps2. Ps3 you're gonna have problems with even with a steamdeck sometimes.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Or just use a phone that's a couple years old

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'd say go on swappa and pick up an S21 for 125 and be ready to go....leave the S23 for doom scrollin.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Why downgrade?

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly "race to sleep" in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it'll consume overall

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

[-] aegis_sum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

[-] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I know but I don't want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

[-] degen@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

Just say you've never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[-] degen@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

I should watch Archer again

[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I would be too. You know they’re repairable right?

[-] degen@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

I did assume a thing or two I guess lol. I got a refurb when it was cheaper than a fix. Wonder if that counts as a "new" phone... Theseus would probably like to have a word.

[-] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

There are real video games for phones now, and I'm pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It's definitely powerful enough but I'm slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn't work in chrome or Google photos)

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don't really care about the curved screen.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Who doesn't want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll...

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

[-] desktop_user 0 points 1 week ago

people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.

[-] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb...

The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.

[-] kadup@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

I'm still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

[-] Donut@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

The majority perhaps, but there's still folks who are interested in the tech side of things.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ok yeah that's fair. Most people.

[-] Aeonx21@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Not sure why your down voted.

[-] hitagi@ani.social 26 points 1 week ago
[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

I wish companies stayed on that track.

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Welcome to a world of 1000W PSUs :(

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It’s like we’re returning to the early 00s lol. I used to rock a 450w psu in my 750ti build. :( granted I use a 650w today but my rx580 SND Ryzen 5 1500x is getting dated when it comes to new releases.

This is the first year I really don’t meeet requirements. Don’t know what to do with this market lol

[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The pc market has taken a very consumerist turn and it's actually pretty disgusting. Sad times.

[-] Zanshi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm in the same boat, haven't really found anything good to upgrade to that doesn't cost me a kidney.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

Yup, that's what I'm using in my NAS for basic transcoding. Works great!

[-] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

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