in the future the trope is going to be "I'm going back in time to k--- Tr--p" and everyone has to stop them because it would mean the great global awakening would never happen
Something, something, Dune.
AFD is the biggest party in Germany. National Rally is the biggest party in France. Brothers of Italy is the ruling party in Italy. Reform UK has won a lot of local elections this year.
And as far as I know, the pro-Russian far-right party just won the presidential election in Romania by a large margin.
Support for right-wing parties is larger among young people than among older generations.
I don’t think Trump has postponed Europe’s path toward authoritarian antiglobalism in a meaningful way. I am frustrated about the present situation, and pessimistic about the future.
We might actually get world peace, as for peace in America?…
I think that - on a global scale - a fair amount of people has cause to be grateful to Trump. Whether it's intended or not, he's tearing down the current geopolitical statu quo and waking up people politically.
On the flipside, I do worry that we narrowly avoided the fire in order to stay in the pan, to subvert the old saying. Over in Canada, we reelected a party that has a lot of flaws, and that their defining benefit is "isn't the conservative right". I'm glad we avoided a conservative sweep, but let's not pretend the shady opposition is significantly better.
Great news for 'the rest of the world' but I'd prefer not to deal with this shit here for 4 years as well god dammit.
That demotivator about your role in life serving as a teachable moment to others bites hard
You're welcome rest of the world. Now be nice to those of us who have to suffer another 4 years.
Be nice to the people threatening to annex and bomb an ally... ? you be nice first.
As long as you voted against him, yes.
If someone said "oh they're both the same" or "Kamala didn't make her position clear enough on ______" or any of the other excuses, they need to bear the full brunt of their (in)decision.
I've zero sympathy for those fools.
full brunt of their ~~(in)decision~~stupidity.
Fixed it. :3
Very right wing of you to have no sympathy for people born less intelligent than you. Fools should not be blamed. A system that allows fools to be swayed and to be the deciding factor is where the blame should go.
Even the dumbest person knows how to be kind to others. You don't have to be smart to not want to wish ill upon others.
People vote for Trump purely because they want others to suffer more than they do. If you vote for someone who wants to deport "brown people" then you know fully he won't be kind to them. If you vote for someone who wants to punish others for doing trade then you know fully well people will suffer. If you think being gay, trans or whatever is a disease and people should be punished for it then there is something very wrong with you.
I indeed have no sympathy for people who voted for Trump. If you voted for him you're an asshole and just want people to suffer.
Blaming the system is a cop out. It didn't happen before, because the electorate held their representatives to some kind of standard. Now, your representatives tell you what to think and y'all just nod your heads like lambs to the slaughter
The incels had a choice to listen to reason. They went out of their way to bully. Many ppl vulnerable got affected by this unfairly.
That's not a stupidity that needs an advocate.
Fools should not be blamed. A system that allows fools to be swayed [..bad grammar..] is where the blame should go.
While the system bears its share of blame, it is the unquestioning enablers, those who readily consume its dictates, who breathe life into its flaws. Just as tolerance cannot survive by tolerating intolerance, wisdom cannot flourish when we indulge foolishness. To dismantle a flawed system, we must first challenge those who sustain it.
I don't know. Unintelligent or even uneducated is easy to label the Maga crowd, and certainly many of them deserve that. But not all of them. I know a few who are well educated but just seem racist or 'i got mine" types.
Yes there are woefully evil regardless of education. Even if you tried to nurture them with better ideas they'd reject it.
Incels come to mind.
Hopefully, Trump and his pals cause other nations to say "The Heritage Foundation is a terrorist organization." Just because Heritage doesn't directly kill people, doesn't change the fact that they will dismantle the world's universal healthcare, food standards, and more just to make some rich person feel good.
Wish we could have done this before the fucker was elected.
And it's not like we don't have this history where this failed before
Most people have to learn the hard way. They are dumb like that.
I always say I have to be hit over the head with a frying pan to learn my lesson, but jesus I could tell Trump was not good for America when he started running for his first term.
And now I’ll suffer for it because I’m part of the “parasite” class.
And the Republican Party is obviously a lost cause when they held that CPAC conference in Budapest of all places
Just be happy you aren't an American, so it won't be as bad.
:(
I can't speak for all of us, but I don't think "the world" at large ever supported "Trumpism" and we largely have always thought him to be a gigantic tit and those who voted him into office TWICE to be idiotic or miseducated.
If you replace "Trumpism" with "fascism", it has clearly been on the rise all around the world for a decade or so now, and it's taking over more and more countries all the time. However it's far from clear that we've reached any kind of turning point where fascism starts to become less popular worldwide, just because of some fairly limp election results in Canada and Australia.
And has the world said thank you, even once?
Fascism. It's called Fascism, not, "Trumpism."
So fucking stupid.
At this point, if a news outlet or politician refuse to call it what it is, I assume they actually approve.
So far it's most of them across the world.
I think a lot of them are afraid of being censored by the fascism for being alarmist. And then trying to hold onto a position of relative power via information is a tricky one, because you have to balance not only your tv station, but the backers, your audience, your managers, your coworkers, your position, your career, and also your life. These people are really REALLY risk adverse, for many different reasons. I'm not justifying it, but I'm imagining this is at least the intuition that some may be working through. Explanation is not justification.
So much for the 4th estate
That's been gone for a lonnnnng time. Capitalism killed it.
Celebrating prematurely. The UK is about to go fascist, Germany is teetering on the brink, and Canada only just dodged a bullet for now.
The UK is hardly about to go fascist. Labour recently won power and there won't be a national election for years. There were smaller council elections recently and Reform won a few seats, but so did the Greens and Lib Dems. Basically, there were some anti-establishment votes.
East Germany voted AfD, but the rest of the country defeated that.
Canada voted Liberal despite a strong anti-establishment sentiment. It's likely that eventually it will flip back conservative. But, there's a chance that before that happens, the chaos of Trumpism will make the conservatives in Canada try to become an adult, respectable party rather than Maple MAGA.
The UK is batshit insane and will be for some time.
Australia breaking from the murdoch triad is a big one.
Like bacteria in a jar. They grow, then become toxic, then die off.
I think US commentators make far too much of Trump and US political influence on the world. It exists but we all have our own cultures, political systems etc out here and we proudly do our own thing. The arrogance of people on all sides of US politics who think an election result on the other side of a world is a reflection of their own domestic politics is incredible.
It would be convenient if the rest of the world could fix a broken US democracy but it is a fantasy. US citizens need to address their problems through struggle and resistance. Their current problems runs very deep in their society and isn't simply an international fashion trend.
Here in Canada the last-minute swing from Conservative to Liberal was definitely a response to Trump, particularly to his repeated threats to take over our country.
Worldwide it may be more that what causes the rise of fascism in the USA also causes it worldwide - and sometimes this is an actual network of wealthy right-wing organizations and nation states working to promote it through propaganda and funding.
If you check the polls, nothing changed in Australia to justify the rapid drop of the right wing, except Trump.
Lieberals were in front for a long time, and then trump started his bullshit and Labor came from behind and soared into victory.
I mean the world can fix a broken US democracy by boycotting the US entirely on all fronts until a democratic country emerges.
This will take a while though as we have seen with South Africa.
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