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NOTE: This thread concerns the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; not internal combustion engines.

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[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago

Sugar in the gas tank will not ruin the engine, the most it will do is maybe clog the fuel filter.

Bleach on the other hand is an Oxidizer, it will cause certain metals to rust extremely fast....

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

This still assumes access to the fuel tank

We can work backwards and double down on this problem by making sure it remains inaccessible for as long as possible.

Ideally, you would want to weld the fuel hole shut, but that may be impractical. Depositing a cartoonish amount of very strong glue into the fuel cap cover can be a more realistic compromise.

Attempts to regain access may leave the fuel tank vulnerable where it can then be double tapped with bleach.

or just use a flathead screwdriver idk im high

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What about that absorbent gel made to clean up tanker truck spills I think I've seen some sold to make toilet replacement easier

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've never considered what a shitload of silica gel would do inside a gas tank.... It can't be anything good, but I doubt it would get past the fuel filter. The vehicle probably won't run but the fix isn't super difficult, just a new fuel tank + pump and you're good to go.

Pouring it into the oil intake would have much more interesting results but you aren't getting in there unless a) you have cab access to pop the hood latch, or b) you're willing and able to destroy so much of the vehicle to access that that whatever you do afterward starts to not even matter.

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[-] magic_smoke 80 points 1 month ago

Am I crazy or does everyone in the comments not realize they're talking about ICE the federal agency?

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're as sane as I was in 2019. Looks like 196 has more gearheads than Americans.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago

I though we were talking about German express trains.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

ICE is jerks.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

Sugar in a gas tank is not nearly as damaging as just pouring water in it.

[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Doesn't it just clog up the fuel filter because it won't dissolve in gasoline?

[-] SoleInvictus 14 points 1 month ago

Bingo, and it takes a lot to clog the filter. Plain water is more of a nuisance.

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[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 month ago

Law nerds: can ironical intent be proven in court?

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 62 points 1 month ago

Serious answer: The US gov is past using courts or caring what the laws says

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago

Think the fbi has officially recognized the term "in minecraft" as possible real intent

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[-] Nomad@infosec.pub 34 points 1 month ago

You realize that's why they use mostly unmarked vehicles?

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[-] entwine413@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

Put a BB in the valve stem cap. It's non-destructive, but will still result in a flat tire. If you super glue the BB, they might end up with several flats before they realize.

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[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago

I'm surprised I haven't seen more calls to puncture the radiator. That would lead to the engine shutting off and being immobilized pretty quickly.

[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Would puncturing the bottom radiator hose not really leak until the pump starts up? Like it would be a slight drip that could be overlooked/unnoticed and a full stream once on and running. Hopefully after driving away a few miles.

[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's why I think radiator damage is the way to go. They will most likely get stuck on the freeway which is a royal fucking pain.

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[-] 33550336@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Putting sugar in the gas tank does not work (unless in a movie). You can clog exhaust pipe or penetrate tire.

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[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Water balloons + black oil paint + used motor oil + a handful of course sand = absolute hell on car paint, polycarbonate panes (think security helmet visors or those see through riot shields), and anything with feet that likes to walk around.

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

What would exactly happen if one woule pour sugar in the gas tank? Like on a chemical and mechanical level?

First time hearing about this

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 month ago

It's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know better. By all means, putting sugar in a gas tank is not advised because, well, sugar doesn't belong in there. But it will not ruin the engine. If it even reaches the engine, you have a pretty bad fuel filter.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago
[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

bleach will do some interesting things

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Bleach in the oil was the destruction method mandated by Cash for Clunkers if I remember correctly.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Man, I hate that program. Destroying tons of cool classic cars and making used cars in general needlessly expensive. Absolutely wasteful and counterproductive. I mean, sure, !fuckcars, but not like that!

If they wanted to stimulate the economy that bad they should've increased spending on bike/ped/transit infrastructure or something like that instead.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

Honestly I am still convinced that it was a handout, though not directly, to the auto industry because Obama had campaigned on saving Detroit but the bailouts weren’t enough to keep GM and Chrysler afloat. (Ford, in a business move that I wish was more common but also because they were dying before the recession, leveraged the blue oval logo as collateral on a loan.)

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nothing. Sugar is not soluble in hydrocarbons and the particles would be caught by the fuel filter. You'd have to replace the filter and clean the fuel tank, but the engine would be fine. Might as well use dirt instead of sugar to achieve the same effect.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well then you would uh... ice ICE's ICE.

bad dum tish!

Not really though, basically, it clogs up the fuel pump/filter.

Not likely to... immediately or quickly immobilize the vehicle... but it would increase maintenance costs, and decrease fuel efficiency and reliability.

...

If you wanna go for something uh... faster acting, more immediate and more serious:

A whole lot of water.

That'll make the engine choke and sputter and stall if you use enough.

So... use ice to ice ICE's ICE?

Uh... in minecraft?

...

Sand will also clog up the filter, and cause more damage inside the actual engine if any gets through the filter.

... A whole bunch of polystyrene packing peanuts would ... also be 'fun', rofl.

The way they chemically interact with gasoline... basically gellifies the gasonline, turning it into shitty, syrupy napalm.

I am guessing a very gooopy gasoline is... not going to help a car run well, please actually do not test this rofl.

I am not a chemist, but uh chat gpt says polystyrene + gasoline is an exothermic reaction... so that... generates heat... and gasses... and that could be bad... in a tightly sealed container...

😅

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[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

We call table salt “salt” even though that’s a generic name for any metal bonded with a non metallic mineral (for instance potassium chloride). Sugar is the same, table sugar is just one kind of sugar. “Sugar” is the generic name for a type of carbohydrate. Ethanols found in gasoline can degrade into a sugar over time (like in a mower left out over the winter) and this will leave a fine white powder in the engine that will cause scaring when the engine is started. Thus sugar can ruin your engine, but is more likely to increase wear. This has perpetuated an urban legend that you can force this by putting table sugar in a gas tank.

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[-] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I find it interesting that these posts are dated 2019. I don't remember this being an issue pre-covid.

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Well I mean the department of homeland security was established like one minute after 9/11 happened and thats who is in charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, so they've been fucking around in the rights of US citizens and noncitizens since then

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

I remember family separations was a big deal during his first term. And then there was that US citizen teen who was imprisoned by ICE in Texas....

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago

Why only ICE vehicles? EVs might be marginally better, but cars are still cars, and they kill hundreds of people every year, cost billions of dollars in direct infrastructure costs (in the huge subsidies that roads get), and untold amounts more in indirect infrastructure costs (because of how inefficient low-density car-centric sprawl is wrt things like sewerage and other municipal infrastructure). Over about 20 km/h the noise pollution is roughly equally bad, and the plastic pollution from tyres is just as bad if not worse on EVs.

What's needed isn't to push people from ICE vehicles onto EVs, it's to encourage people to use (and more importantly, governments to support) active transport like walking and cycling first and foremost, with public transport for longer journeys.

I'm also not a big fan of that sort of indiscriminate vandalism anyway. I'm not gonna bat an eye if you're doing it to all yank tanks, but people's sedans and hatchbacks? That's a bit much, IMO.

[-] Radin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

ICE as in “Immigration and Customs Enforcement” not internal combustion engine.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago

Oh, I see. That seems...very non-obvious, given it only refers to "ICE vehicles", and a certain subset of ICE vehicles are a popular target for vandalism because of their association with the kind of person likely to be a fan of the ICE government department (and because of their even greater overall societal harm than regular vehicles).

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 22 points 1 month ago

I think a lot of folks assume everyone around the world keeps up with our stupid timeline and alphabet agencies here in the US.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Okay, won't do that 🫡

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