I just saw my first one if these IRL today at a cafe where I ate lunch. It was only for ICE and not cops in general, but it made me feel good about spending my money there.
Will that even work? With the new ruling allowing warrantless searches? Can I just put one of these up on my front door and LE will just go, "dang, this place looked like a great one to ransack and pillage, but with the sign... Dang."
Depends what you mean by “work”. Being a cop is not a protected class so yeah you can expel one from your private business for any reason or no reason at all.
But if they are investigating a crime, executing a warrant, or any other kind of official business then no this sign doesn’t do shit legally. This place looks like it serves alcohol and is open to the public so there’s no right to privacy from police when holding a liquor license.
That's the fun part... You get/have to bring your own enforcibility
This is what we know as "virtue signaling" but otherwise has no real meaning.
Odds are there's a shotty under the counter
Why am I picturing a hostess greeting people with: "Are you a cop? You have to tell me if you're a cop."
They'd have my business forever
Hostess played by Jack Nicholson
I genuinely have no idea.
"Show me your dick so I know you're not a cop"
...oh, you meant another kind of hostess? Carry on, then!
No shirt, no shoes, badge and gun, no service.
It's a public space. The limitations on search warrants are very low for those.
That's an open invitation to criminals. Good luck when the cops don't show up
They typically don't until it's all done anyhow. Then they shoot your dog.
The goons in John Wick have more credibility than cops. I'd love a franchise where it's just John Wick gunning down these IRL goons and knock it off with this thin blue line propaganda horseshit
Tbf Keanu could probably merc a couple hundred cops on his own, those videos of him training before John Wick shoots (heh) are insane
Also your hypothetical movie needs more Jon Bernthal
Cops don't prevent crime. They only respond to it and often commit other crimes in the process
The criminals are the ones being banned from the store
Trick question, cops are criminals
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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