Greece banned golden dawn as a criminal organisation and while a lot of members splintered into other parties it was overall a success in nearly removing all their influence as a political organisation from Greek politics - so, overall banning the fascist party, at least in one instance, worked.
Wow W Greece 💯🙌🏻
AFD should be banned... Threat to democracy tf
Learn from history and America. No half measures. If you're going to label them extremists, you also have to break them.
Learn?
The Americans are doing the opposite - they're complaining that AFD has been labeled an extremist organization.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/02/marco-rubio-germany-afd-00324283
America's mistake was not putting down the movement when we had the chance. Germany has the chance to quash the AFD, and work on the issues of the nation. That's the lesson to be learned.
This
AfD are Nazis in all but name. How is it they remain unprosecuted in a nation where swastikas and the Hitler salute are outlawed?
They're not just nazis, they're nazis sponsored and funded by putin.
This is documented, but racists would rather support their literal enemy than dare accept changing their worldview in any way.
Plausible deniability but they do get in trouble pretty routinely. The last big one iirc was the poster with the two kids saluting each other to form a roofline with a kitchy caption about housing.
https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/afd-accused-nazi-symbolism-election-germany-hm8dv7nql
One of the main contributors is probably that the last time they tried banned an extremist party on the right (the NPD) it didn't work because they didn't present enough evidence according to the courts, that made everyone involved hesitant this time (or at least that is the excuse they used). Or rather, it failed twice, once because they had agents within the party and the other time for lack of evidence. Obviously obtaining that evidence without running into the first problem again is tricky.
"The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order,"
Great news, but also ironic considering German uncritical support for Israel.
What does it mean if a democracy bans a party that the voters want to elect? Better to ask what failure of the system made that party popular in the first place. We have a similar situation in the US fwiw.
True, but then again we have lived through that already and know that dangerous parties can be elected democratically. That is exactly the reason why we have this mechanism in place.
An anti democratic party has no right to be elected democratically.
Exactly. Democracy is famously the only system which allows to be dismantled through its own tools. That is why the German system is called "Wehrhafte Demokratie" (defensive democracy) to not end up like the Weimar Republic.
I fear, that many if not most people do not understand why AFD is an undemocratic party or why this would even matter for them.
What does it mean if a democracy bans a party that the voters want to elect?
To be fair, 80% of voters did not vote for AfD - and if 80% of voters want to ban a party? Well, that is democracy. Although it's a dangerous tool to use.
The US is way more fucked, as more people actually voted for Trump than not.
Yeah but that's an example of tyranny by the majority. Just because a majority of people want something doesn't make it right. In theory I like the idea od banning the AFD, but I'm scared of the potential backlash it could cause and what the consequences could be. In the modern day when people are so segregated in their own bubbles, I feel like this could make them more extremist (“Look, I was right, they're just trying to silence the truth")
Pray they find a valid legal reason to ban them soon now that they can mass spy on them :)
YOU DON'T SAY
"But previous attempts at banning them have failed because such an official report was missing."
Man, this is peak modern society, and the absurdity makes me laugh. I don't mean that in a derisive way, more in a "wow, making democracy work is haaard ". Hopefully this will lead to something positive though, even if I'm anxious that banning a party like the AfD may lead to some things worsening.
entire AfD 'extremist'
No shit, sherlock, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
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