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submitted 1 month ago by Ace120C@sopuli.xyz to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I go to a programming school, where there were computers running ancient windows 8 and some were on windows 10, they ran really slow and were completely unrelaible when doing the tasks that are required, those computers in question had either i5-4750 (I think?) or i7-4970 so running windows 10 with all its bloat was not going to be an easy task for em, so long story short I decided to talk to the principal about it explaining why linux is so much better than windows and gave him reasons why linux will be better for us for education and he agreed after considering it for a bit, he let me know that some students play roblox or minecraft in middle of the lesson and he asks if linux would stop em from doing that, I stated that as long as they dont know how to work with wine/lutris or know any specific linux packages that run windows games on linux they should not be able to play in the middle of lessons. he gave me the green light to do it, so I spent like 3 days migrating like 20+ computers to linux (since I had to set them up and install some required applications for them) in the last day where I was doing a last check up on the PCs to make sure they are in working order, there was a computer having a problem of which where it didnt boot, I let the principal know about this to get permission to work on it, he said yes, so after some troubleshooting I realized the boot order was all screwed, so since Ive worked with arch before I knew how to fix it, I booted up linux mint live image, chrooted, and fixed the boot order and computer went back to life, prinicipal came in checked on everything to make sure everything works, told me to wait for a bit, and then came back and paid me for his troubles (was a bit of a surprised since I expected nothing of the sort), the next day I came to school, sat down, turned PC on, noticed something was in the trash bin, opened it, found "robloxinstall.exe" on it, told the principal about it, he was pleased with it, so now 2 weeks later he seems now to be confident about linux, as he told me there is another class he is considering to move to linux.

so my question here would be: does this mean linux now is ready for the education sector?

(considering now, that I got a win win situation, I get to use an OS that I like in school, students gets to focus on the lessons instead of slacking.)

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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

That's an awesome story. If all your doing is browsing the Web or using applications that can easily and stably run on linux or have drop in replacements then linux would definitely be totally viable. On the other hand if you need to install specific proprietary applications and you have to rely on wine then maybe not.

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[-] debil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Great job! Now it's a good time to learn a bit of Ansible so you can keep your fleet up-to-date and configured. It would also come in handy in case you get a permit to do more conversions in the future.

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[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 month ago

Little side note

those computers in question had either i5-4750 (I think?) or i7-4970 so running windows 10 with all its bloat was not going to be an easy task

The i7-4790K is still quite powerful, so I'm pretty sure this wasn't the problem, at all. Perhaps they're running on an HDD, have little RAM, or you got the CPU wrong.

You can see the CPU and RAM by launching System Info from tbf start menu, and see if it's running on an SSD or HDD by launching Disks from the menu.

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[-] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Linux has been ready for education for a long time! Most of the public high school machines I interacted with in the mid 2000s were linux based. There was a dedicated Mac lab for creative work.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Using Linux in the university back in 2004 helped make the jump to Linux at home and I have been using it for 20 years now.

[-] starstriker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

It takes one technology inclined person to set it up, it's just takes another one to find a workaround, now the success of Linux in preventing gamers from doing their think depends on whether the second person decides to make the workaround known

[-] Ace120C@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

yes but they will have to learn the OS, thats also a good thing

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

Beautiful work .... I wish my school had done that when I was a kid.

The great thing about it is that now you are helping to generate a new crop of kids who will learn how to use Linux. Sure, they will try to do stupid things on it like install games or figure out how to bypass things or install or uninstall ... the great thing about that is that they will learn how to use the system in order to try to break it. It's the same way I learned how to use Linux and probably the same way you learned how to use it.

You've advanced the computer department for those kids more than you know.

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[-] bpev@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Focus on lessons instead of slacking, eh?

workstation013 is not in the sudoers file. 
This incident will be reported.
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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Btw I would recommend leaving a note on the desktop saying something like COMPUTER_SPECS.TXT. I had Linux on my computers in school, and I was thinking "holy crap Linux is slow and old", but it turned out to be cheap hardware (and I didn't know better, back then)

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 13 points 1 month ago

Minecraft Java Edition runs natively in Linux. But kids these days are probably playing Bedrock... chumps.

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

That’s super awesome

Buuuut my guest gaming machine is a 4670k machine and I can confirm that not only does Windows 10 run very smoothly on it, but it also runs most modern games at 60+FPS! CPU-bound games can struggle. We finally got my partner a new computer and made that one the guest machine when Persona 5 went from 80FPS down to 5FPS when they got off the train hahaha

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[-] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Lol a kid can google how to install games on linux, just need one to do it and teach the others, I used to bring games on a usb to play on macs through wine through the school lan, eventually I put them in some random folder on the school network, it didnt delete it til like the last day of school my senior year, wed copy the games to our computers and delete them at the end of class.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

But then the accidentally had to learn Linux, win win

[-] beveradb@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You overestimate the technical competence and attention span of the current generation of kids - they barely know how to use a mouse.

IMO if any kid these days manages to do enough work to figure out how to do anything on Linux, they're probably well ahead of the pack and deserve to play their game as a reward 😅

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 13 points 1 month ago

One of them will, and the others will ape it.

Repeat this process enough times and more and more of them will get a bit better.

It's sort of like education; except the students are a bit better motivated.

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[-] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago
[-] SanguineBrah@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 month ago

This is great for a handful of devices but I deploy and administrate hundreds of devices at my school. As much as I would love to, there's no way I could sell this without a really robust way of managing device policies & software deployment. I understand RHEL has something like that but that it isn't quite up to the same standard as the Microsoft admin ecosystem just yet.

[-] Ace120C@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

ah fair enough, hopefully one day, there is an easy way for linux to do what your school are looking for!

for my school they teach programming as such python webdev etc, so getting linux primed up for that was rather simple, I'm surprised, they haven't did this before I suggested it!

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[-] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

Don't forget to test updates and make timeshift backups when needed, I never had a bad update but it really helps.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You have turned Roblox/Minecraft loving little kids into a lifelong Linux haters. 🤣

I applaud you.

PS: So how are the computers performing now?

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

Minecraft runs natively on Linux, so it won't take them long to figure that out.

[-] Ace120C@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

well, the ones that do figure it out, they earned their game session, that would lowkey force them to learn linux, which is good tbh

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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Did the same some years ago. It was for the gap between win7 and 10.

Everyone told me it was the best productive time. Because users can't install stuff and my network blocked a lot of dumb shit.

But now we got new win 11 PCs and every user is back on solitaire or shady websites.

[-] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For such a setup I think it Is a good idea to look in to freeipa/idm. Would make management a load more easy. centralized account control and being able to sit at any PC and login with your own credentials is one of the many benefits.

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