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Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated further after a top Pakistani official claimed early Wednesday to have “credible intelligence” that New Delhi will carry out a military action against Islamabad within the next two days.

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stop reading the news.

If it happens it happens. If you see the flash, lay down prone on the ground with your head towards it and your hands covering your face. Otherwise until that happens, just carry on as normal with your life

[-] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 day ago

I just skim stories and catch a general idea of what's going on for this reason.

'Is this something I can actionably do something about? No? Then don't worry about it.'

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

stop reading the news
Because the news contrives to frighten you.

Sorry. Don't really like Morrissey but had no choice there

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] Bunbury@feddit.nl 37 points 2 days ago

I suspect that’s exactly the reaction Pakistan is hoping for.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

On one hand I think you're right but on the other, if they're correct, I'd say they want India to know they're in their systems or have spies.

That kind of an opsec failure is going to be disconcerting at a minimum.

[-] Bunbury@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

Well, if Pakistan got it right this might just be disconcerting enough for India to abort this planned attack . Even if Pakistan didn’t get it right or are maybe even bluffing it might create an international reaction that could cause India pause before any future attacks.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 89 points 3 days ago
[-] FatTony@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

Before we all die in WW3 I'd just like to say: It's "Oh for fuck's sake."

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago
[-] cyphear@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

Since the sake belongs to the fuck, the possessive apostrophe is appropriate. It's not a contraction.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Actually this is a common misconception. Fucks sake is a rice wine from the Fucks region of Giveashit. Nothing to do with Sir Reginald Fuck despite appearances

[-] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 2 days ago

ITT people claiming this could be a WW3 starter. Even if India engaged Pakistan militarily, I fail to see how that would lead to anything larger than a localised conflict.

Like, neither country is geopolitically significant enough for any major players to care at that level. Sure, India getting bogged down in war could affect supply chains around the world, but would any of the heavyweights like US, China, Russia or a semi-relevant NATO country think that would be worth their involvement? If Russia being on year 11 of their military invasion of a NATO-bordering country hasn't sparked a world war yet, I don't see how this would either.

[-] TechLich@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Since when is India not a major player? Last I checked they were the world's 4th biggest economy, have almost 20% of the population of the planet (more than four USes combined), 4th largest military spend and have nearly 200 nukes.

Not to say that it would be part of a world war but it sounds weird to say that they're not a heavyweight but Russia is, despite having double Russia's economic output.

[-] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Sure, on their own, but are they part of any defence treaties like NATO or have alliances with other countries strong enough to drag them into this conflict with Pakistan and start a world war?

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

They both have nukes though

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Agree with everything you've said. They only thing is China has been contesting a North Eastern border with India for some time so they might take the opportunity for some shenanigans.

Still don't see it escalating beyond regional though as you said.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

If Modi thinks it'll help him stay in power, he'd probably do it.

[-] fakir@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago

The British did a 'divide and rule'. Religion was the tool used to do the division 75 years ago at the time of separation. Religion is the same tool used today to divide the country internally and manufacture hate and consent for war.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

The "everything is fault of the British" is such a cop out. India and the region had no trouble dividing themselves very publicly with caste systems, no?

People just need education.

[-] fakir@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The British popularized the phrase, which gives away the playbook. The rich and powerful use this playbook time and again to divide the masses. Education should help, but siloed propaganda is really effective to counter even education because propaganda uses fear & hate to bring out the animal in you, and when you're angry and scared you forget all reason and all education.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This playbook existed way before Britain did. Even in ancient India.

We know for a fact that one things works against all of these playbooks - education.

[-] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago

Just to be technically correct, very little evidence suggests caste system was abused in ancient India, that maybe because figuring out ancient India is hard due to lack of archeological evidence. But most of the horrible abuses of caste system are documented around 900AD and later.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sure but the local monarchies of that time still had strong status and seggregation systems afaik

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anti British empire people:

The Brits are horrible! Look how they divided the world in countries with straight line borders without care about the local population's culture!

Also anti British empire people:

The Brits are horrible! They made 2 separated countries due to their culture being different!

You can't blame the British on this. Countries are supposed to be groups of people that are geographically connected and have similar cultures. Religion is a big part of culture.

Of course leaving I think leaving Kashmir to decide their own fate was a mistake. In retrospect, they probably should have divided them in 2 and give part to Pakistan and part to india. Or alternatively force them to become a separate state with a constitution that doesn't rule out the idea of separating in 2, and each part could decide independence or join their culturally-similar country.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 days ago

Not how I wanted to solve global warming.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

If this causes nukes to fly, then it’s been nice knowing you all of if it causes WW3.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Same but also more real for me because I live in Mumbai. Probably the top target for Pakistani nukes.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Best wishes, but really living up to the username, huh?

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They've had an actual (small) war before over Kashmir, subsequent to them both getting nuclear weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

They did not use their nuclear weapons.

It also marks one of only two instances of conventional warfare between nuclear-armed states (alongside the Sino-Soviet border conflict).

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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 26 points 2 days ago

I only learned about hostilities between the two countries after about 28-30 years on the planet (thanks, US edumacation system) and I still don't think I understand why they don't get along...

To any who are stuck in their countries as their governments choose the stupidest possible actions, you have my sympathies, and I wish you well in the coming days.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Border disputes (mainly Kashmir) worsened by the friction between a Muslim-majority Pakistan and a Hindu-majority India when both are led by increasingly nationalist governments, basically.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah yes, “my god(s) that I made up is better than your god(s) that you made up”

[-] pulido@lemmings.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hate to break it to you buddy, but the more you study religion, the more you'll realize that they're fighting to bring their gods to life and shape the world as they see fit.

That's how they could convince people to go to war over their religion. There would be no need for war if one side believed in the 'right' god, because all the other sides would be punished by that god. But the religious interpretation of 'god' means that the outcome of the war will determine which god is 'right.'

Gods being as real as we make them is a feature, not a bug.

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[-] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Pakistan was created by Indian separatists (I'm oversimplifying, but that's the crux). They're divided by religious groups (e.g. Pakistan is majority Muslim, while India is mostly Hindu (~80%).

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[-] softcat@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

From the top minds that brought us, "who? Bin Laden? Here?"

[-] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago

Hmm for some reason I didn't have India Pakistan on my bingo card this year. Guess I should have after the past couple years of conflict between them. Russia China America and Isreal took up all my spots this year though.

[-] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Isn't this just India posturing because of the Kashmir attack? The first threat about cutting off water was an empty one so now they are floating some military strike just to appear thst they care? I may eat my words here, but neither party is going to risk a full on war with an enemy with nukes over a place like Kashmir.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Please tell me they got it off Signal. So hot right now!

[-] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

WW3 heating up

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