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submitted 1 year ago by Blizzard@lemmy.zip to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I think this is mostly a US thing. Why use yearly salary? You're not paid once a year, are you? Most likely once a month. Referencing monthly salary makes much more sense.

"I'm making 50k". Great, now I have to guess - dollars? Monthly? Yearly? If yearly then what's the monthly paycheck? Net? Gross?

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[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Often in the US we’re quoted yearly salaries by businesses for full-time positions. They will hire us for, say, $52k per year, and that will be given as $2,000 every 2 weeks. But then if we get a $500/yr raise, they don’t tell us what the new rate is on the paycheck: we have to log into the account and see the pay stub to know what our hourly rates and biweekly paychecks actually are.

Typically, it’s hourly quotes for part-time and often full-time salaried workers, and yearly quotes for full-time, especially salary exempt. Personally, I get a yearly quote, and have to look up my stub to see what the hourly or my two week gross are.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Divide your annual salary by 2080 hours/year for the hourly rate.

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[-] Meho_Nohome@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Because taxes are paid yearly. You tally your yearly income to file your taxes.

[-] foo@withachanceof.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because it's easier to compare yearly salaries. If you say “I’m making 50k” then I can assume it's yearly (if it's monthly then good for you, but that's overwhelmingly not the case). Otherwise you need to specify the pay frequency and do math.

Same with net/gross. I can assume your yearly salary is given in gross because net introduces a bunch of variables with tax rates based on location/deductions that makes it a fairly meaningless value to compare against. Not to mention your net monthly income may change in a year as you hit certain tax limits like the max social security tax limit.

Some people may also not have consistent monthly earnings so averaging income over a year gives a more accurate picture of average income.

[-] amenotef@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Spain it is also yearly. In general the annual salary is divided in 14 payments, unless you ask to have it divided by 12, depends on the employer, so it makes sense.

The income tax is also annual based. So depending how much you earned during the fiscal year you have a different tax rate. (And part of the income tax rate is dependent on the "state" but they are all more or less similar).

[-] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In France, people are sometimes paid 13/14 months a year. It means you get two months as a bonus, so it’s relevant in this case to tell the yearly salary

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[-] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Happens in germany too. A lot of people get a special salary at the end of the year, Christmas money if you will, and that also accounts into the yearly salary. If I earn 4K a month, I earn 48K a year, but if I get 100% christmas money, I earn 52K.

[-] Hoomod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Salary is guaranteed, bonuses are not

[-] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 6 points 1 year ago

It's a financial year not a financial month

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

My income varies enough that the yearly total is a better picture than the last two or four weeks are.

[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

What's up with yearly salaries not keeping up with inflation?

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

This must be very regional. Additionally, I’d bet a lot of this might depend on industry.

Someone who’s hourly might have fluctuations in their hours over a set period of time, like a month, or even week to week.

Seems like a number should always be coupled with a unit.

[-] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It's just a choice. It means nothing. Conventions are conventions merely because people started doing it that way. If you don't understand, then ask a question.

What exactly is your challenge here?

[-] papalonian@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

If you don’t understand, then ask a question.

What exactly is your challenge here?

I think they were asking a question? There isn't a challenge they're doing exactly what you said to do in the correct place to do it lmao.

[-] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aha. I see the confusion now. Oops.

I meant ask a question in response to someone saying "I make 50k", when they mentioned that now they have to guess.

My point is that conventions are arbitrary, different people use different ones, and when someone uses a different one to you, then simply ask to clarify. Then I wondered why this presents a challenge.

That's what I meant.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In my last three jobs, I was paid weekly, then bimonthly, and currently every two weeks. Weekly and every two weeks is easy to convert, but bimonthly my pay would fluctuate slightly.

There are also yearly bonuses and similar that would not be included.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's not as useful for day-to-day budgeting as a more granular one, but people generally only look at their finances closely once a year at tax time and so it's a good point of comparison for that; get a sense of how your financial life is evolving.

It's also the number you're asked for on tax forms, other financial forms (loans, financial aid, bank accounts), questionnaires (though you can lie or 'prefer not to say' on those)... comes up a lot, basically.

[-] CAPSLOCKFTW@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Wwll, I get 14 monthly payments a year, so two times a year the double amount, plus a yearly bonus, plus a fixed one time payment, so monthly would simply not represent how much i get yearly.

[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Generally the people you’re telling your salary are people in the same location as you or at least the same state.

Telling the yearly salary makes the most sense there since it should be similar weekly/monthly amounts. And even if they aren’t in the same place and it doesn’t translate based on tax differences, telling someone the monthly or weekly payment would make no sense.

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