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[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 69 points 4 days ago

"If your mother doesn't teach you manners, the world will." My friend from Kenya told me it's an old proverb where he's from.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 304 points 5 days ago

As a parent, if my kid did that, I'd likely side with the neighbour. I would put it (very loosely) in the category of "natural consequence" punishments.

It fits the crime, it discourages the crime, it forces empathy with the cat, and it does no real harm.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 112 points 5 days ago

This is my favorite answer. I'd argue that he got less than the natural consequences of his actions. In nature, when one assaults another, even with something as harmless as water, it's usually reasonable to interpret it as a threat, the response to which is usually violence. That kid is lucky he didn't get a face full of claws. I've gotten a lot worse from gently touching cats that, as it turned out, didn't want to be touched. Boundaries are important.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago

Natural consequences doesn't mean "law of the jungle" here. It just means linking cause and effect in a proportionate manner.

I tend to use a lot of "natural consequence parenting". Basically, the response should flow from the cause. If you throw water over your friend, you can't then complain if they throw water over you. You learn that, while it's fun when expected, it can be deeply unpleasant when unexpected.

It's a lot more effective than random generic punishments. The trick is shielding them from excessive results, while allowing proportional ones to play out. E.g. swinging on a chair will get a warning, but often not stopped. When they fall, there's an "I told you so" before/with the cuddle. If there is a risk of a more serious injury however, e.g. the corner of a table where their head may hit, then I step in and stop things.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 28 points 5 days ago

I don't have kids but this is pretty much how my dad raised me. It made me really respect when he gave me a hard no for something, it meant "no really the risk majorly outweighs the reward" and even if I didn't understand it at the time I trusted it. I got a lot of I told you so after varying seriousness of injuries lol. Eventually I learned that the soft warning meant I was going to have a lot of fun but I needed to be ready for if it went sideways. Now I've got a pretty healthy sense of my own limits and when to start gauging risk/reward

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 109 points 4 days ago

My neighbors daughter had one of those water guns. I told her if she shoots at me, I'll get the hose and retaliate. She grinned, shot at me, and ran away laughing.

I talked to her dad, he nodded, and when she came back for more mischief, she got wet.

[-] KiloGex@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

If my kid did that, I'd let you splash them again.

[-] WanakaTree@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

Seriously my first thought if I saw this all occurring and my kid came complaining to me about it is I'd just say "well this is how the cat feels"

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Truly cannot conceive of any other appropriate response. My kid's an asshole sometimes, better he get gentle lessons now.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 53 points 4 days ago

Like, I agree with the tit for tat. But don't let your cat outside.

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[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

If it was funny to do it to the Cat.... It was hilarious doing it to the kid.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Can confirm.

I have a robot that clears snow on my driveway (it’s a diy build,). One winter, we were having problems with a couple teenage boys chucking snowballs at cars.

Their dads conspired to teach them a lesson.

They recruited me and S5-SY (the robot, pronounced “Sassy”,).

So they played some mind games to get the kids to think it was their idea to record themselves-live- chucking snowballs at the “defenseless” robot.

In the video, the robot turned to face them, drove itself into the snow bank and turned on its sweeper to give them the worst white wash of their lives.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 13 points 4 days ago

I'm sorry, you can't just say "I built a robot that clears snow", like it's no big deal! Do you have more details? Also, please link the video of it blizzarding the teens!

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[-] happytimeharry@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

I’ll take things that never happened for 200$

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 4 days ago

Yes, no 10 year-old ever threw water at a cat.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

I like to imagine she had the basin of water handy in that moment.

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[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

If my neighbor did ANYTHING to my pets, they'd be lucky to only get sprayed with water.

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[-] piecat@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

ESH. Kid shouldn't have done it, but also the lady shouldn't let the cat outside

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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

That the risk you take with an outdoor cat. It's not even like water is harmful to it.

I used to have an outdoor cat and if that happened I would have shrugged it off and expected him not to go there again.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 82 points 4 days ago

That's the risk you take with an outdoor brat. It's not even like water is harmful to it.

I used to have an outdoor brat and if that happened I would have shrugged it off and expected him not to go there again.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Both takes are 100% correct

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[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

"Nobody got hurt, just LET ASSHOLE BE ASSHOLES! MUH FREEDUMS!"

Nah, I'm a firm believer in 'Fuck around and Find out'

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

That the risk you take

Well someone might just hit your car, that's the risk you take by driving, nobody got hurt, they shouldn't be held accountable. I would have shrugged it off and started taking the bus.

This is fun, we can remove all accountability from everything that's not harming someone directly!

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

You can tell the people in here thinking it's ok to retaliate like that are people that live alone with cats or in their parents basement with cats. I have cats and children. Y'all this isn't the way to go about this.

[-] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

pours a basin of water over you

[-] Zanathos@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At 10 they should know better. Now, I don't know the dynamic of this "neighborship", and pettiness is not the way to go about anything. At the same time though, it's only water.

[-] Roughknite@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

It's water, get over yourself

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Time to splash the father

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How DARE you interact with my poor, helpless cat, who I lovingly toss outside to slaughter songbirds, pick up parasites, and maybe get flattened by a car. I don't generally give a single solitary shit what happens to it out there, but this splash of water is TOO FAR.

Edit:

Please stop letting your cat out. It's not good for your cat or the local wildlife.

https://daily.jstor.org/environmental-danger-outdoor-cats/

https://www.bbc.com/news/scienceenvironment-21236690p

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/cats-responsible-for-driving-many-species-to-extinction/all/amp.html

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[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago

i think i still remember where i was the first time i saw this posted

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 35 points 5 days ago

Lucky for me I'm one of today's 10,000 and have not seen this before.

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[-] robador51@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 days ago

We've a lot of cats coming through the garden. I wouldn't mind if not for my dog, who does and goes insane when she spots a cat. So I've been thinking about getting a super soaker to chase them away. I think that's pretty harmless, and perhaps they learn to skip our garden after a while... What do you lot think?

[-] Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 days ago

I think they taunt you by shitting in your flowerbeds while you're not looking.

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Idk,

Shouting “Hey, don’t do that” loud and clear may be more effective.

  • kid may have thought they where alone and will get jumped from getting caught.

  • May alert the parents their kid is up to mischief.

  • Doesn’t potentially start an escalation war with neighbors

  • Doesn’t carry the small risk of the child falling or otherwise getting hurt with you as an easy blame.

Think of it like this: Does the kid now understand the “evil” of their actions to try be better next time. Or will they feel vindicated by their parents support against your “evil”

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago

You're right, but this is fuck around and find out territory. I would want the escalation to make it clear where I stand with my cat.

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[-] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 4 days ago

plot twist: kids a radical ecologist, keep ya cat indoors.

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