I swear bro the next capitalism actually works, bro trust me, bro without capitalism you wouldn't have iphones bro.
bro i promise, with social democracy capitalism is equalitarian. yes bro i promise. bro, no more oppression! please don’t look at the global south
bro capitalism is the best we've got, trust me bro despite its flaws it's the only one that works bro, bro just accept this as truth, bro don't question it bro.
Global South wouldn't be a fair example since you'd have to factor in historical (and current) exploitation by Western nations. This tends to bolster corruption by having leaders sell out their population to align with Western prerogatives, enriching themselves in the process.
The social democracies in these nations is generally an attempt to protect the populace from Western capitalism moreso than domestic capitalism.
One example would be when the US overthrew the Shah in Iran back in the 50s because they socialized ownership of their oil reserves (previously owned through exploitation by a Western coporation). They staged a coup d'etat to install a pro Western leader so that the Western exploitation could continue. This inevitably led to the Iranian revolution, playing a significant role in Iran's current state as a theocracy.
The Global South, particularly South America, has countless of examples of this. The term banana republic is used to describe this very situation.
This is by no means an indictment on Western culture, just that the global rich will inevitably be in a position to manipulate the global not-so-rich for their own gain. Western nations are the global bourgeoisie.
Nordic nations are a better example of social democracies as they are not subject to the same type of meddling.
oh yea i agree with you, my point was that western socdem nations (like scandinavia, for example) still exploit/depend on the exploitation of the global south
No no no you don't get it bro, what we have right now is adjective capitalism, that's very different from real capitalism. Bro if we had real capitalism things would be so nice
I’ve never come across anyone who calls themselves a “Stalinist.” Maybe that’s what some horseshoe theorists call Marxist-Leninists.
I must confess to have stealing this meme from elsewhere and didn't even notice that lol
The problem is that in order to unite the left it is necessary to agree to the ideological level, very difficult, to unite the right it needs just a briefcase of money.
to unite the right, all you have to do is say "so, we all hate Black people and immigrants, right?"
Money's got nothing on hate. Nothing unites the Right more than hate, every fascist ideology centres around hate for a certain group. Be it Jews, Palestinians, Chinese, or Hispanics.
I wish. You're giving right-wingers way too much credit. Most of those craven idiots do it for free for the opportunity to lose themselves in a gaggle of other morons. They are vulnerable in a way that is easy to exploit for people who know how to do it.
Or a general hatred of the other
Stalinists, Maoists and Socialists (at least the reformist ones) are pro-capital, just under a different form. They love their commodity production and wage labor...
Marxism-Leninism (which I presume you mean by the term "Stalinist") is more classically Marxist than those who think they can abolish commodity production over night. I elaborate more on that in this comment.
There's a huge difference between capitalism and oligarchy. What we have is oligarchy. All the worst parts of capitalism. 19th century robber-baron "capitalism."
The "oligarchy" of today is not distinct from Capitalism, but Capitalism at a later stage in its life.
