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[-] sigmabot@crazypeople.online 280 points 4 weeks ago

big bang theory is about what dumb people think smart people are like.

[-] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I wouldn't say dumb people. It's a caricature, much like Dennis the Menace is a caricature of small children in a quiet, suburban neighborhood. Only Big Bang Theory wasn't based on an existing comic. So more like Friends being an unrealistic caricature of a late-20's/early-30's group of people living n NYC.

Entertainment doesn't always have to be authentic.

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[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 weeks ago

apologies for the pixels, I stole it from reddit

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[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 105 points 4 weeks ago
[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

This changes my perspective on the entire show... I'm going to have to watch it again for the 152nd time with this in mind now.

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[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 87 points 4 weeks ago
[-] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 39 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Because, similar to blackface in its time, people love to point and laugh at exaggerated caricatures of something different from themselves.

And CBS airs lowest common denominator garbage that the masses devour.

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[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 83 points 4 weeks ago

Except for that one transphobic episode that Graham Linehan has ruined his whole life over instead of going "Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a bit insensitive."

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 131 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

EDIT: since I don't want the top reply not to mention this, fuck IT Crowd creator Graham Linehan for the incalculable damage he's done to innocent trans people. He's a worthless, disgusting bigot.


Honestly, I always found that episode... Weirdly progressive? Even maybe by accident? Consider the following:

  • The trans woman April is legitimately physically attractive and with a distinctly feminine voice to match.
  • She's a legitimately very sweet, intelligent, and earnest person.
  • She tells Douglas upfront in no uncertain terms that she's trans (she phrases this as "I used to be a man", but honestly, considering both 2008 and the fact it was used to setup a joke, I think this isn't too transphobic? A trans person in 2008 might've even said this because there was less of a support network to understand that you always were a woman.)
  • Douglas gets upset because he thinks he's been tricked, but 1) he absolutely was not, and the episode makes this crystal clear that it's because April made every effort and he's just an absolute dumbass, and 2) Douglas has been portrayed in the show to this point as nothing but a juvenile, overdramatic, chauvanistic sack of shit, and we're clearly not supposed to be rooting for him.
  • She's a fantastic girlfriend and becomes the love of his life. A big part of this is because she has a duality between traditional femininity and an interest in traditionally masculine activities, but I also don't think this is terrible representation? I have a trans woman friend who carries herself in a traditionally feminine way but hasn't dropped more traditionally masculine activities that she grew up enjoying.
  • She throws the first hit at the end, but this is after Douglas dumps her on the spot after they've hit it off, had sex, and confessed their love for each other because he was too stupid to listen, he tells her to get lost, he basically calls her gross to her face by talking in a disgusted tone about "that operation you had", and flat-out denies her existence as a woman.
  • It's made very evident that if Douglas weren't transphobic, he could've lived the rest of his life with a woman who's established to be literally perfect for him.
[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 58 points 4 weeks ago

100% agree. It paints trans women favorably and makes Douglas the asshole like he deserves.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, it's kind of a Death of the Author moment. Ignore Glinner being a transphobic ogre and it's actually quite good.

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[-] purpleprophy@feddit.uk 23 points 4 weeks ago

Douglas ruined a great relationship because he just couldn't stop himself being a transphobic bigot. Pity Glinner didn't learn any lessons from his creation.

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[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 weeks ago

Linehan has become much worse since that controversy, he's been on a proper trans hate crusade since like 2019. It wasn't about being insensitive, he's completely deranged and the episode was just an early slip.

[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 27 points 4 weeks ago

Absolutely. I can't know what has gone wrong inside him, but even if this particular brainworm was eating him up 20 years ago, he could have just said something vaguely apologetic and let it blow over. Instead, he decided a trans hate crusade was more important than his family or his career.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The big bang theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

Misogynistic pure shit.

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[-] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 62 points 4 weeks ago

If I had to rate the IT crowd out of ten, I'd give it 01189998819991197253

[-] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 61 points 4 weeks ago

If you think otherwise, you're head disabled.

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[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 61 points 4 weeks ago

No... the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 58 points 4 weeks ago

It’s cuz they work as a team. An IT team. Team, team, team. Team players, each and every one.

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[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 55 points 4 weeks ago

I watched one random episode of BBT after it was recommended to me by a few people. That one episode was enough for me to decide that I never want to see that show again, and also that I should disregard all recommendations from the people who said I should watch it.

[-] jonesey71@lemmus.org 30 points 4 weeks ago

I watched a scene where someone posted it without the laugh track and it was super cringey. Semi-related note.. Taking the laugh track out of BBT ruins it, but taking Garfield out of Garfield comics takes it to a new level, see here -> https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/

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[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 25 points 4 weeks ago

The laugh track alone is enough evidence

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[-] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 4 weeks ago

Yes

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[-] gaterush@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

To whom it may concern... No too formal

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago

No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There's a very clear difference.

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[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago

I've always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.

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[-] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 39 points 4 weeks ago

If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.

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[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago

In my mind, I still picture this as the archetype of an office's boss inside a boss's office. If it doesn't have the 4th breaking wall picture, then it's a fake boss

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[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
[-] dink@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago

IT Crowd S02E01 is probably the funniest episode of any sitcom I’ve seen

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

How did they steal your wheelchair?

Mournfully: “I don’t knooooow”

Cracks me up every time

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[-] AceSLive@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

Absolutely. My favourite of the IT crowd.

Aside from all the hilarity inbetween, the set ups to the last few gags are ridiculous and the payoff is brilliant.

Jen, talking to Roy, figuring out why on earth he's in that wheelchair only to turn around in desperate need of a drink, to see Moss politely ready to serve her at the bar...

"Willys, willys, I like willys" "I love willys..." "What?" "It's I LOVE WILLYS!" "---Sir, would you keep it down!?"

My favourite too, mate. So bloody good.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

I've watched IT Crowd half a dozen times.

I haven't managed to finish an episode of BBT before I switch it off in disgust.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

BBT is a show about smart people for dumb people. The IT Crowd is a show about smart people.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago
[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago

Community, IT Crowd, Arrested Development, 30 Rock, Scrubs... The 00's had a lot of great sitcoms. We didn't know how good we had it.

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

For sure it's no contest. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

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