Outlook (new) (a webversion in a wrapper, so it only has half of the functions, but they force you to use it while planning to deprecate the proper version)
But it comes with new features too, like an ad at the top of your message list every time you open it! We should consider ourselves lucky that they're giving this to us for free!
The moment they made me jump through hoops to use the old mail app instead of using the one with ads is the moment I switched to thunderbird.
I plan to switch to Linux but I am very busy right now and installing a new OS onto my PC isn't something I can do.
Take your time. The penguins will be there for you, when you're ready.
Except the Windows version of Outlook (New) doesn't work with all of their data centers - but the web version and Mac version do - because they didn't fully write out the authentication framework for high security tenants so you're forced to use Outlook (Classic) until they "eventually" update it.
Honestly, bring back waterfall development cycles...
They we awful and failed a lot, by at least we didn't have zombie failures being used!
Deploying incrementally doesn't need to mean releasing incrementally.
That's a great point , but even the degenerates in the windows and office teams make an absolute mess of things and tend to prioritize BS cosmetic changes over actual improvements as a result
.exe
.msix
.appx
Outlook (newer)
Outlook_New_Final_FINAL_2025_FINALREAL (1) (1).rtf
Outlook (latest newest newer new final definitive edition v2.0)
What about the inevitable (based on years of development experience):
Outlook (new) New - Final - 2025-04-17 - THIS IS THE ONE.lnk
Outlook (new) New - Final - 2025-04-17 - THIS IS THE ONE_final_b_v2.lnk
My team at work is always confused when I ask if they're using Outlook or New Outlook (new) New
Did you say Teams at work? Did you mean New Teams or Classic Teams? Did you want to swich back to Old Teams or stick with Current Teams? Or did you mean the Teams feature within Teams?
Think that pisses me off the most is how you can't uninstall it. First of all, I don't even really need a mail app on my computer. If I do, I'll install one I actually want to use.
Look I hate windows too but every app featured here can be uninstalled. The real shame is you can't add a signature to meeting invites correctly unless you copy/paste won't manually, focused inbox, you can't move a message to a different folder from the message view pop up, as far as I know the add-on center is gone and so is the VBA scripting, its just garbage and Outlook Classic (hey MS look thats how you rename shit) was actually decent. Thunderbird is superior to both tho.
You can uninstall it, just install Ubuntu.
*Linux Mint
Why do we still associate these changes with Gates?
Marketing gives you more fame than inventing
I think you can attribute that to the people MS bought DOS from. Don't ask me their names, because...
The basic Mail app in Windows 10 is still the baseline I compare every other email client to, and I've yet to find anything I like as much. Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, it only ever ran under Windows, and for stupid reasons, it was deprecated and now if you try to launch it, it exits and launches Outlook (New), which is a horrible email client.
Outlook (new) is not even a "mail client" at all. It's an Edge "webview" web app. Adding an account to this "app" actually allows outlook.com the website to sync your entire mailbox, read its contents, and "share" all of that data with their (last checked, could have changed since) 798 "data partners".
Install Thunderbird.
Before someone says "it's not pretty enough, I don't like it", if the price for privacy is a shiny theme, I've got nothing dumb enough to say to you. You're beyond helping and you're not worth my time.
Edit ^ that last bit wasn't about you, person I responded to, just realized it sounded like it was.
My 86 year old father-in-law has had the roughest time with the new outlook. It keeps losing his settings. I kept him on the (old) outlook as long as possible.
I tried Thunderbird for him, but some parts of the UI don’t respect extremely large fonts. Sigh.
My current solution is just straight up web mail to his provider which has other problems, but I have sorta-kinda mitigated them by installing a separate browser that is set to open that website. This has some other small problems, but it will have to do for now.
I honestly wish Apple made a 20” iPad.
I mean, the same can be said for "new" teams.
Though.... "Teams classic" was an electron app, and I'm not sure that's better.
Outlook "classic", as far as I'm concerned, is the last actual email client program that Microsoft will make. From here on out, it's all webapps.
Honestly, so much of their stuff runs in a web browser that you might as well just just google apps..... It also negates any requirement to run their bloated shitware OS.
FFS Microsoft, just put out a functional OS. I even really liked the Windows 11 Beta/RC, but what it became once commercialized got me to switch to Fedora on my main PC and swear off getting another Surface.
As a help desk worker this shit is so fucking annoying.
Oof hell desk, yea I left that behind as fast as I could. It was nice and all being chill not worrying about budgets, policies, "IT business alignment" and such
But god damn if I had to deal with Beatrice's weekly hour+ password reset call one more time I was going to lose it lol
Meh, I'm gonna wait for Outlook Mail (new)
Outlook Mail Final (v2) (new) (work)
Old is called classic.
2meirl4meirl:
My Outlook still has the yellow icon. Changed it back manually because I kept opening Outlook by mistake when I tried to open Word.
Outlook, Teams, Word, Edge, it's all blue. Really fucking annoying
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity
I have some incompetent boomer ancient nepo hire for IT.
We have to use Outlook Web, Desktop 365 Excel.
But Outlook 365 is set to launch on startup. It's not set up the company wants us to use Web for...idk why. 365 Outlook doesn't connect to anything, yet it's installed and registered.
Kill me. I have to save PDF files to OneDrive so I can open them in Adobe Reader to select text because you can't in their shitty fucking outlook web app that won't let you download things any other way.
Yuck, I'm not waiting for it. If possible I'd like to run away from that thing. I only associate it with corporations and work.
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