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[-] Xtallll 12 points 2 days ago
[-] gearheart@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Dude is saying he can't be expected to smuggle him back into the u.s.

He didn't have any complaints smuggling him into El Salvador.

[-] Angry_Owl@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago

This is my theory too. He’s dead, and the administration doesn’t want to openly admit that an innocent man was murdered because of their racism.

[-] Angry_Owl@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

The current US Administration murdered Mr. Garcia.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Sadly, you can.

Friend died recently. I know you can.

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[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 3 days ago

Did anyone actually think they'd let him see anything? Why would they.

I'm not naive enough to think he's still alive but that's beside the point.

[-] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago

I think he is still alive. Bukele made agreements with the leaders of all the major gangs in El Salvador to get them to reduce violent crime. In exchange he gave some money and concessions as to how prisoners would be treated. If it comes out that prisoners are dying in CECOT, the gangs are going to treat that as Bukele breaking their agreement and violent crime will shoot up.

Even if he's still alive, though, there's a 0% chance he, or anyone else Trump sends there, will ever come out of CECOT while Bukele or Trump is still in power. It would completely undermine so much about their regimes at this point. They are using CECOT as the ever present existential threat against opposition. It's supposed to be a black hole people go into and never leave. They can't let anyone out ever or it proves that people can get out. They don't want anyone to believe that is possible. They can't let anyone believe that is possible or it'll breed massive opposition in both countries.

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago

Bukele made agreements with the leaders of all the major gangs in El Salvador to get them to reduce violent crime. In exchange he gave some money and concessions as to how prisoners would be treated. If it comes out that prisoners are dying in CECOT, the gangs are going to treat that as Bukele breaking their agreement and violent crime will shoot up.

This agreement makes no sense. Nobody ever leaves CECOT alive so what are these gangs supposedly gaining by agreeing to this?

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago

Nobody ever leaves CECOT alive so what are these gangs supposedly gaining by agreeing to this?

Loyalty from the gang members still inside.

Amazingly, gang leaders are very often able to operate even while in prison. And of course, there's possible hits inside of the prison system that need to be "taken care of" by members inside.

Prisons are just an extension, basically, for gang life.

I take one issue who you're replying to: Violent crime will go up, but first, there will be massive dollars on Bukake's head.

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[-] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 195 points 4 days ago

Yeah that man is in pieces already

[-] Ickabod@lemm.ee 110 points 3 days ago

That dude is dead. They are hiding it

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 27 points 3 days ago
[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 156 points 4 days ago

Tourism makes up 11% of El Salvador's GDP.

Sounds like that should change too.

[-] BoulevardBlvd 109 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I mean I guess but I'm more disturbed by the fact that they have so much tourism given the fact they've had concentration camps for years

Who the fuck was going to El Salvador?

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 4 days ago

Latin Americans. Not United States citizens.

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[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 107 points 3 days ago

When/if the judge starts arresting people involving, the charges need to be for murder. If they can prove that he's alive, the charges can be lowered to abduction and attempted murder, plus everything. Throw the fucking book at them, and find a way to make it not federal, pardonable charges.

[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 56 points 3 days ago

The state attorney general can file charges at the state level. There is no way the people who snatched the guy had a valid arrest warrant. These are just Proud Boys and Oath Keepers with badges given to them by Trump for being racists.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

While I agree, who is going to do the prosecution? The DOJ is compromised.

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[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

Murder, Human trafficking, contempt of court, kidnapping... long list,

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[-] suddenlyme@lemm.ee 60 points 3 days ago

a lot of people here are saying he's dead, but the press aren't. Why?

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

There is no press anymore, they have capitulated. All you have are recorders and interpreters that push whatever Trump wants or they get banned/prosecuted.

Standard behaviour in a Fascist regime which is what the USA became under trump

Side note: We now have confirmation that a heavily armed population providers deplorable stats on violence and school shootings while doing exactly nothing to prevent the rise of tyranny... well done USA

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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

It's just speculation, but they're saying it because nobody has ever been released from CECOT. It's not unlikely that they are just murdering the inmates and pocketing the money that the United States is giving them, or not sufficiently protecting inmates from violence between other inmates.

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[-] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 3 days ago

The press are broadly beholden to journalistic standards that require multiple sources to corroborate something as fact before publishing it. Us regular jack offs have no such limitations.

As to why people are speculating that he's dead? For one, the place does appear to be a literal death camp. Also, officials in the Administration have admitted he was deported "in error" (though there have been conflicting statements over this and at least one firing). Since any sane person would want to fix a mistake of this magnitude, you could see why them refusing to might make people wonder.

[-] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago

The press are broadly beholden to journalistic standards that require multiple sources to corroborate something as fact before publishing it.

You have forgotten the /s

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Because they're all afraid of reprisals from the trump regime

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 59 points 3 days ago

I don't understand what justification El Salvador has for keeping a man imprisoned who never broke any of their laws. Can I pay them to hold my neighbour in prison? How much does it cost?

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Tbh this is a less bad outcome than I was concerned this was going to have (after letting him in to the prison: “Uh oh, looks like your president thinks you’re a gang member. You can just chill here forever.”)

[-] witchybitchy@lemm.ee 71 points 4 days ago

what in the hell is going on

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 83 points 4 days ago

Evil is running the world, I mean, more than usual.

[-] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 52 points 4 days ago

Guy's probably already dead.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

We have a President trafficking humans right in front of our eyes.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I bet he’s in this pile

[-] drascus@sh.itjust.works 55 points 4 days ago

My guess is they are already dead

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 45 points 3 days ago

Because he's probably dead or at least has had something happen to him they don't want getting out

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[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago
[-] obinice@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

gasp, they won't let him visit the guy that went through the death camp?

gasp

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

He's dead. Calling it now.

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