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[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Look I'm not saying we have to switch to a total lack of hierarchy immediately. I just want us to start at the top and eat our way down and see how that affects things.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago

(Researchers going over ancient Internet history): Wow there must have been some SERIOUS food crisis going on from 2000-20xx! There's so much talk about cannibalism and guillotines!

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Have you seen what grocery stores are charging these days? Yeah, there's a crisis.

[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

My plan would help reduce that grocery bill a little bit(e) at a time

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just start eating at the top and reassess when everyone's full.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

On Lemmy, it's more like "oh you're an anarchist? You obviously haven't read enough Lennin"

[-] Gelcube69@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

I'm entering my years as a senior anarchist, and I always find it funny when some in their 20's who got their entire personality from a podcast tells me to read to read On Authority or State and Revolution or something. My dude, I actually read people I disagree with, do you? Because only someone that doesn't would think those are profound criticisms.

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

People keep saying that about lemmy, but I haven't seen it. Maybe it is your filter bubble?

[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair, your instance has defederated from the 2 large tankie instances.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Same here, these people constantly complaining about "tankies" seem to vastly outnumber the alleged tankies in my experience

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen a single one personally

[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Your instance has defederated from them.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uh-huh, expect I went to hexbear, it's made up in the public consciousness

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because they don't exist, people will say it's because they were part of hexbear or another defederated instance but I've checked them out and they're more or less the same maybe a bit more left leaning but certainly not tankies

I'm mostly convinced it's bots or conservatives

[-] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I have an account on lemmy.ml and I don't see it there. Maybe buried in the modlog? Which is public?

[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't it the opposite here. Idk if when they say tankie they mean leftist hexbear users or maga type right wing people. That's not trying to insult hexbear. I literally don't know.

I get called a tankie or centrist here compared to reddit where only a few times I was called a centrist.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Tankie generally means a Marxist-Leninist, specifically ones that support the USSR under Stalin

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Removed my comment, you were correct I was misinformed

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

No worries, happy to see some humility online

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure eating billionaires and pumping their Ill gotten gains into systems that help humanity would fix most issues. Kill off any greedy fucks

[-] huginn@feddit.it 6 points 1 year ago
[-] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not lol.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to solve every problem, but it does have to result in a better world than we have now, which it won't.

[-] CthulhuDreamer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My house is on fire. I am gonna call firefighters.

Anachrist: First you should dismantle capitalism.

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's more like:

HELP MY HOUSE IS ON FIRE, CALL THE FIREMEN

Anarchist: we don't need the state to solve our problems, we can do this

BUT DUDE, MY HOU--

Anarchist: let's get some buckets

[-] Serdan@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Is it seriously your contention that effective firefighting can't exist without a state?

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, not at all. A state isn't necessary for anything

I am the anarchist in this joke

[-] SkyeStarfall 5 points 1 year ago

Anarchists aren't against firefighters, though? Only the police.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

They're against the state and hierarchy in general

[-] SkyeStarfall 7 points 1 year ago

Firefighters aren't inherently hierarchical. An anarchist society would still have firefighters.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Of course they aren't inherently hierarchical.

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That doesn't equate to being anti-organization.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it doesn't. In fact, anarchists, along with communists, are probably the most vocal supporters of people organising. Just not in a hierarchy.

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

This meme applies to any ideology sufficiently removed from the current state of things. Ideologies are fun, but conversations that ignore how much work is required to transition get boring after a while.

Which is why I think slowly eating our way down from the top is far more interesting and safe proposal than any pure ideology.

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