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Nebraska’s Republican Gov. Jim Pillen on Wednesday signed an executive order strictly defining a person’s sex.

The order notably does not use the term “transgender,” although it appears directed at limiting transgender access to certain public spaces. It orders state agencies to define “female” and “male” as a person’s sex assigned at birth.

“It is common sense that men do not belong in women’s only spaces,” Pillen said in a statement. “As Governor, it is my duty to protect our kids and women’s athletics, which means providing single-sex spaces for women’s sports, bathrooms, and changing rooms.”

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[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

I still don't understand what business the government has defining sex. How is that in any way the government's job?? If anything, it could be up to medical organizations, such as the AMA, if they had sound arguments. But, the government? I really try to at least understand everyone's logic even if I don't agree with them, but this is just so insane. I don't get it.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

That’s because there is no logic, the people that want the government to define sex have a purely emotional reaction to the very existence of trans people… and most things that don’t align with their narrow life experience and worldview

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[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago

Not that I agree with what is happening but they are defining it in legal terms, which is absolutely their job. A simple example might be killing someone is just killing someone, and the government defines what is murder and what is manslaughter.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I understand the point of defining a criminal act, but being a sex isn't criminal. It's being a human.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago

Just a reminder if you are worried about your children being ogled by trans people in the "wrong" restroom: There are ten gays for every one trans person, so the likelihood of being ogled by people in the "right restroom" should be ten times higher. The solution is not to police who uses what restroom, but to design restrooms that don't allow for ogling!

I swear, the only proof of a grand gay conspiracy I've ever found is the bathtub urinal. Walls, people, real walls, not plywood separators that have gaps between the doors and opening on the bottom.

[-] fadingembers 33 points 1 year ago

Also don't for a second think that they aren't coming for gay and lesbian people next.

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 24 points 1 year ago

That, and like, don't flatter yourself (person who is afraid of getting hit on by a hypothetical gay guy in a bathroom). Most people, the vast majority, look like 20 lbs of birdshit.

There's better places to date and get asked out anyways, like a gay bar, or at a fun climbing gym. If you do get asked out (which won't happen), take it as a compliment for not looking like hell and move on. xD

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can't wait for them to remember that trans men exist. There's going to be a lot of shocked Pikachu Republicans when men who look like men show up in "women's spaces" because they're being forced to.

Wish I could be a fly on the wall to see that fucking awesome scenario.

But seriously, trans folks, you don't deserve this bullshit and I hate that your existence is the controversy of the moment for Republicans. Be well and take care of yourselves <3.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

I recall an article about that exact thing happening - a trans man had to use a women's restroom because of the local red policy over his birth cert saying female.

People saw a man enter a woman's restroom, and proceeded to beat the shit out of him.

It's a feature, not a bug.

Don't ever forget that for republicans, cruelty is the goal.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago

It's designed to put trans people in an impossible position. Use the bathroom you want to and get brutalized by the cops, or use the bathroom you're legally required to use and get brutalized by private citizens while the cops look the other way.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago

It's also gonna suck for any cis women accused of being trans, and subject to invasive "verification"

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago

It's not gonna be fun at all because it will involve trans men being threatened and assaulted.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

there's gonna be a lot of ~~shocked Pikachu~~violent Republicans

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Intersex is a thing.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 45 points 1 year ago

Fucking fascist pieces of shit need to go on a pyre.

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[-] dmonzel@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago
[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

They just want it small enough to fit in your underwear.

[-] cmac@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Does this mean that if there's a clerical error and your baby's birth certificate lists the wrong sex, it's illegal to get it corrected?

[-] ExFed@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

This reads a lot like the Indiana Pi Bill. Granted, that one never passed, but it's a pretty old story: politicians think they know better than experts.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

And now that our Supreme Court has thrown Chevron Deference out the window, that old story may have a different, much worse, ending.

Look at how they just forced the EPA to stop protecting over 60% of wetlands in the US. Look at what they're doing with the FDA and mifepristone.

Bad times ahead.

[-] Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

"assigned"? How can it be assigned when it's a natural state of being? That's like saying the kids also get assigned hair color or eye color at birth.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

They're trying to co-opt language "assigned at birth" is a trans phrase

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Because it's not always one or the other. Sex and gender are far more complicated than just X or Y.

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[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Funny thing, both of those can change too. I was blond when I was a kid, now my hair is brown, and when I'm old it'll be gray.

You're missing the point. If a kid is born and has brown eyes does the doctor "assign" his eye color? As brown? Or does he observe the eye color as brown?

Saying the doctor "assigns" the eye color could mean it's up to the doctor to decide, when it really isn't. The doctor can't look at brown eyes on a newborn and say, "yup I'm going to assign that as blue"

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[-] squiblet@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Maybe someday, someone will successfully describe the difference between sex and gender to a conservative.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

It's not about being successful. They don't want to know.

[-] Antaeus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

How is it that the US is moving backwards? I am struggling to understand this...

[-] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Death throes of a vacuous ideology.

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