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Update: it took time. And then a quick pry with a knife. Saved the dishes. Ravioli saved too but for raccoons outside probably lol. What I learned about physics....sheesh.

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[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 109 points 2 weeks ago

UPDATE PLEASE. I must know the fate of the dishes.

[-] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago

It has been 6 hours since OP created the ravioli black hole that will eventually consume our planet. I think of all the wasted years I spent worrying as oblivion heads my way.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 104 points 2 weeks ago

No one is going to mention that OP has a bowl specifically for ravioli?

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago

I think it’s just a bowl currently full of ravioli

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

No issues with either one of these options tbh

[-] apex32@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Well how do you cook ravioli? In your fettuccine bowl?

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[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 17 points 2 weeks ago

I'm confused why there is a plate involved at all.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I would guess he had the plate over the bowl, while he was microwaving it, to prevent the little sauce splatters during heating.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 98 points 2 weeks ago

Hot air cooled, contracted, and created partial vacuum is my guess. Make it hot again and it will unstick, I bet.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I was gonna suggest just running hot tap water over it for a few minutes until the air inside expanded enough.

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[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 61 points 2 weeks ago

Cool one slightly while warming the other.

[-] echo@lemmings.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

Probably sit the bowl in warm water with ice on the plate. That will increase the pressure inside and aide in the separation.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Would you want the opposite?

I thought heading the bowl will expand it slightly and increase the suction, cooling it will shrink it and reduce it.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 42 points 2 weeks ago

Hot air expands and cold air contracts. You want the air in the bowl to be hot so it's not creating negative pressure.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

I did not think of that, thanks!

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Its the same thing that happens with fridges and freezers. But they have become better at equaling the pressue.

PV=nRT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law

Change in temperature (T) means a change in volume and/or pressure

[-] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago

The air inside is what is causing the vacuum heat the air, expansion, less vacuum. Cool the air, shrinks, more suction.

Heating both likely the smoothest solution.

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago

No, warm the whole thing to heat the air inside

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 weeks ago

Put the whole thing in a pot of water and start bringing it to a slow simmer. This will warm the air inside, expanding it and breaking the suction. I got my stuck blender jar open this way, taking it out as soon as the first tiny bubble escaped and quickly unscrewing it before it could cool.

[-] sbf@feddit.org 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hot ass water

Edit: Clarification: Poor hot ass water on it or dunk it in hot ass water

Edit 2, electric boogaloo: This is dependent on the material, according to my mother

[-] admin@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago

Can I use regulat hot water if I don't have access to the ass water?

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[-] tomcatt360@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Instructions unclear, bowl still stuck to plate, but is now covered in sexy posterior dihydrogen monoxide.

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[-] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 48 points 2 weeks ago

Someone slept through physics class a few times.

Heat and/or cold would be your friend in this situation.

Personally I would just toss the whole thing in the freezer for the night, but there is a small chance that results in a broken plate in the morning.

If you have an air compressor a blast of air right against the lip of the bowl would probably also pop it off.

Other than that just run hot water over the bowl (or submerge it) and then get the plate cold while being careful to not have the hot water touch the cold plate or visa versa.

Best of luck soldier.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldnt be the opposite? What's keeping the plates together is vacuum. What it needs is to heat the gas inside to make it expand and reduce the vacuum

[-] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago

Let me walk you through my 3 different answers.

  1. Shrinking the bowl and the plate at the same time might just pop the seal when left in the freezer all night. It would only take a couple Crystal forming in the right spot to break that seal.

  2. Blasting air into the seal could potentially resolve the pressure difference holding the bowl to the plate or force enough air into the bowl that it actually builds positive pressure inside and that pops the bowl off as well.

  3. Heating the bowl would get it to expand slightly and cooling the plate would make it shrink slightly so doing them at the same time could cause the perfect seal they have formed to shift enough that it allows the pressure to equalize/release.

It's less about heating the gas inside the bowl to reverse the vacuum and it's more about breaking the seal that has formed in the first place.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

But heating the gas inside would also work because, no matter how perfect the seal is, it won't matter if there is no vacuum to hold the two pieces together.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago

This is the answer. Leave a hair dryer blowing at the thing for 5 or 10 minutes. It will heat the bowl, and also heat the air inside, which will expand.

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[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

The plastic was fused to the glass some how. I pryed it off and salvaged the plate. Also, I already tried all of that.

[-] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago

Oh you melted the plate to the bowl lol. That's kinda impressive. It does make me wonder if your bowl was not dishwasher safe to begin with. Things shouldn't be melting/fusing in the dishwasher.

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[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

By "ravioli bowl," do you mean it currently has ravioli in it? If so, put it in the microwave for increments of like 30 seconds.

[-] FreeBeard@slrpnk.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

The power of suction is physically limited. That means it either isn't suction or op is crazy weak. My guess is that the plastic melted (probably not from boiling Temp) or op is strongly exaggerating.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

yeah it's probably electromagnetic force holding it on there or something

[-] peteyestee@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago
[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

Could god microwave a ravioli bowl so hot even he couldn't pry the plate off the top?

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Pick which one to save and which one to sacrifice. Smash the sacrifice with a hammer to free the other, break them both and realize this is just so like you and every single thing you try to do starts with a half baked plan, then goes off the rails and ruins everything until you've nothing to do but pick up the pieces.

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I'm the kind of person who reads step 1, does it, and then goes on to read step 2. I'm happy I'm not OP.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

The mildlyinfuriating part is that OP hasn’t posted a resolution.

[-] LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

an hour of prying

After that much work you should leave is as-is on your coffee table as an art/conversation piece.

[-] softcat@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

were you able to free the raviolis

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, if you're using the hot bowl trick, make sure you pay attention to it; if you leave it to get hot and forget, it will be even harder to unstick it because the escaping hot air inside will make a partial vacuum when it cools down.

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago

I also think heating everything up is the smoothest solution. But to offer an alternative, I'd use dental floss to get in between the bowl and plate. If the bowl has slightly rounded edges (I believe it will), it won't be too hard to get floss in. With the floss you'll get inevitably some air in... Which will equalise the pressure and break the vacuum.

As an inferior alternative to floss, fishing line could work for this approach as well.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

congrats you now have an elevated plate

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'm gonna need an update when OP does the hot bowl trick, I wanna know if it worked

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[-] Trihilis@ani.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

I have no idea what I'm looking at. Wth is a ravioli bowl? A bowl made specifically for ravioli?

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[-] liquefy4931@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Plastic bowl. Squeeze it.

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