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[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 209 points 2 weeks ago

https://www.theverge.com/news/644769/microsoft-fires-employee-protestor-war-profiteer

" It is also concerning that you have not apologized to the company, and in fact you have shown no remorse for the effect that your actions have had and will have."

SAY YOU'RE SORRY OR THE COMPANY WILL BE SAD

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 2 weeks ago

yelling and finger-pointing at the CEO before a live audience of thousands of attendees

oh nooo not finger pointing, thats so outrageous, unlike killing thousands of children

and making hostile, unprovoked, and highly inappropriate accusations against the CEO, the Company and Microsoft generally

the truth cant be hostile or inappropriate and the accusations were certainly not unprovoked

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago

remorse for the effect that your actions have had

I think they were expressing remorse. Just, you know, remorse about the killing. Not the loss of face to the C-levels.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago

That is the real crime here ...

Embarassing rich people or losing profits. Their lives are what really matter, wouldn't want them to be inconvenienced in any way.

[-] bitflip@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

Have they said thank you once?

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 134 points 2 weeks ago

While I wholeheartedly agree with her message, the reality is that any employee that interrupts a company event to criticize the company until they are escorted out of the room is gonna be fired regardless of the accuracy of their statements. We should be appalled at Microsoft's complicity in Gaza, not that they fired an employee.

I applaud her for her stand, but she and everyone knew this would result in her termination.

[-] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 weeks ago

Not wrong there, though I find it humorous they expected her to apologize in the dismissal letter

[-] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t see the humor in it anymore. Whenever it comes to even admitting the crimes happening to/in Palestine, it’s always decent people getting the entire book thrown at them, while others who actually do something evil get off scott free.

You can’t just ask for accountability for crimes. You have to kiss the ring and you have to be made an example of. What we are seeing with the response to student action is actually unprecedented and it’s genuinely unhinged. And it’s not just the US, it’s most of Europe too.

It’s not enough that our brothers and sisters in Palestine are getting rounded up and massacred. You have to support it with every fiber of your being or you’re a terrorist. After planing my whole life to move to the West I’m now genuinely scared I’ll be jailed for thought crime if it keeps getting crazier.

[-] msage@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago

I know that's not the intention, but saying it like that slides into apology territory.

We should be absolutely appalled at the firing, maybe to a lesser extent, but there is no better time to point out this than during a big event.

It's kinda like saying 'protestors should not disrupt public spaces', like they have done everything else, what else do people need to wake up and draw the line?

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

And we can be hopeful for companies to have solid principles where if they are accused of genocide that they reflect on their actions instead of firing, and hope for a future where that's the expectation instead of apathy.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

Don't anthropomorphize companies. They don't have principles. Companies are essentially nothing but incentive structures designed to maximize profits. You wouldn't expect an algorithm or a machine to have principles so why would you expect that of a company?

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[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No. Absolutely fuck everything about your argument against the fired employee. We should be appalled at her termination as well as Microsoft's atrocities.

Did you mean to say we shouldn't be surprised that she got fired, or do you truly believe nobody should be appalled at Microsoft's decision to fire her?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Civil disobedience involves the acceptance of consequences.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

No. It may involve the expectation of consequences, for the sake of planning for retaliation, but anybody who condemns atrocities should also oppose retaliation against the condemnation.

Maybe some folks commit civil disobedience with the intention of voluntarily facing the consequences, but that's entirely up to those individuals. Even in that case, they then depend on the broader society supporting their disobedience and demanding their retaliators back down.

Absolutely fuck everything about this "well they had it coming" apologia mindset.

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[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 122 points 2 weeks ago

I feel good about cancelling my 365 subscription, and I will continue to feel good about switching to Linux when windows 10 hits end of life. Not giving this company another dime.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 97 points 2 weeks ago

I know this is unsolicited advice, so feel free to ignore me, but I am an expert on these things so here's my take:

Before you switch to Linux, start switching your apps to ones that you know will work on Linux. It'll make the process much easier for ya! :-)

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 27 points 2 weeks ago

I recommend you to do the switch now. Linux is more accessible than ever and there is no reason to give them any more of your data. Also it helps you to transition step by step where it might take a bit longer to get used to a different way of doing things.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 12 points 2 weeks ago

I've been considering Linux for a while now, but I play games between 4 and 8 hours pr day. Is Linux and gaming still a problem or?

[-] Darxium@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago

It depends on the game, although the overall situation has improved recently. Multiplayer games tend to have more issues due to their anti cheat software, which often doesn't support Linux.

I recommend you check these pages for compatibility in your preferred games in case you want to try:

  • protondb.com
  • areweanticheatyet.com
[-] TerHu@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

honestly, most of the games i wanna play are totally fine and might run even better on linux. what is something to keep in mind is anti linux anti cheat: https://areweanticheatyet.com/ besides, you can check https://www.protondb.com/ to get a rough overview of what you can play. out of all the games i’m playing only one isn’t working rn, cuz the screen ratio is messed up (it’s a small rather unknown game) but really many games are fine. i use steam and heroic games launcher, and they’re great. f nvidia tho. they can be a true pain in the butt (on windows too though…)

[-] chrash0@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

ngl, sometimes it is. it depends on the game. usually the problem is anti-cheat, but Valve has been working on improving that with many games working out of the box today. i’d say if you’re playing single player games, once you get Proton installed it’s virtually the same experience.

check out https://www.protondb.com/

if your games are gold or above on there, i’d go ahead and pull the trigger.

[-] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Use SteamOS. Your use case requires it.

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[-] commander@lemmy.world 79 points 2 weeks ago

Switch to Linux. Don't use Microsoft email. If possible don't use MS Office and if you currently need it, encourage Libreoffice, OnlyOffice, etc

[-] JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago

Regardless of current politics, this is great advice anyways for a lot of people. These alternatives are very user friendly now a days, including many Linux distros. They will do almost if not all what a user needs. Few exceptions.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

For Europeans the illusion American reliability is rapidly fading as well. If BDS is not a good angle consider cybersecurity as well.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

One small problem: some services won't let me change my e-mail for dumb reasons, thus I'm struck with MS for now.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

In the past when I've had to migrate emails I'll set up automatic forwarding for anything important like that. Then switch the services you can. Idk if something like that could work for you and it is admittedly a bit of a pain to keep track of. Could limit MS influence on your stuff though

[-] zippo@lemm.ee 72 points 2 weeks ago

I cannot recommend switching to Linux enough! Linux mint is a solid, stable OS with a thriving community and ample support for newcomers.

There are alternatives to nearly everything, yes YOU CAN absolutely live without microsoft or google tracking your every move, stealing your data, selling it and using that profit to fund unethical bullshit. Take back control, you will never regret it.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Someone broke into my house on Tuesday and installed Linux Mint on my previously windows ThinkPad so I'm setting that up with all my productivity software today.

Fun fact I thought that my sound card was just gradually dying because I lost onboard speaker output 5 years ago, and lost any BT audio output last week, but it all came back after Mint was installed so I guess it was just windows being windows this whole time. I honestly just accepted that she would never speak again from her onboard speakers.

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[-] Crabhands@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

I installed pop os yesterday after repeatedly saying I hate Microsoft all week. Bye windows 11!

[-] EySkibidiBabBab@feddit.dk 6 points 2 weeks ago

I used to be an avid Linux user a couple of years back -- but had to move to macos due to work. I however soon have the freedom to move back soon. Just out of cursiosity, do you know why people are recommending Mint over Ubuntu now?

I have no horse in the race, i'm just curious what changed as when i used Linux last time you would be recommended Ubuntu 95% of the time.

[-] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

Ubuntu is run by Canonical and people have mixed opinions about them. It mostly stems from their insistence on using snaps to run apps when other versions are supposedly faster (flatpack).

I think that's the biggest issue otherwise Ubuntu is fine and I use it on all my VMs.

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago

We have reviewed our internal policies and found our employees do not share the same values as us.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, you are 💯 correct that this is what they did. Regardless of industry, is why unions are so very important. “At Will” employment is too easily abused, and even if this could somehow be considered a wrongful termination (ANAL, but protesting a company’s social-political viewpoints is not protected like gender, age, race, etc are) it can be costly and time-consuming to fight it in courts by yourself.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Textbook retaliatory, I hope they have a nice retirement

[-] aspirate@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Sue the company and bring the details in to a the court of law.

[-] Wimster@europe.pub 26 points 2 weeks ago

Microsoft will feel the wrat of Europe. Many people are switching to Linux. Even (local) governments with thousants of employees. This all together will have hudge implications in the next few years.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 25 points 2 weeks ago

I guess most everyone else that works at microsoft is cool with this.

Saint Luigi guide us.

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[-] Dropper_Post@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

what else do you expect :D it's always about the money, if not helping jews would be more profitable they would do that.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 17 points 2 weeks ago

Linux being better than ever couldn't have come at a better time.

[-] b0o@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Was going to ship an innovative Windows application, will now stop working on it to focus on other apps.

[-] gruhuken@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ship it to Linux if possible lol

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

You're a war profiteer Mustafa!

[-] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Linux time, nerds, who aren't already using it.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Atmoro@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone needs to learn about Open-Source, Community-Made stuff, & more useful terms to know

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Suggestion if you're still stuck on Windows (or use Steam on Linux).

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