As the owner of an FP4, I will not get any further FP products.

The hardware is mostly fine, but it's also meh. The speaker sucks, the microphone sucks, the camera sucks. Just talking to people on the phone is a pain, since people just can't understand me.

But worse is the software. Updates are slow (still no Android 13 on the FP4) and terribly buggy. Each update brings new bugs with it, old bugs are resolved only very slowly. One example of this is that some devices experience ghost touches. So in the newest update, they just lowered the sensitivity, so that the devices that didn't have ghost touches before now often don't register touch at all. On the forums there is a long list of known bugs. The weird thing here is that every user seems to get a random grab bag of bugs.

And lastly: There is the price. It's so incredibly expensive, that it basically invalidates any benefit you get from the repairability. If I buy a comparable phone for ~€400 less, I can use that money to get the battery and screen professionally replaced a few times.

So all in all, I am really not happy with the FP4, and this will most likely be my last Fairphone, unless Fairphone will finally migrate their software development to an in-house team where the devs actually use the phone themselves. Software QA is so terrible, that I can't imagine anyone at Fairphone actually using the phone themselves.

JerryRigEverything already tested it and I'm impressed.

The Fairphone is always just such an odd decision for me. On one hand, I would love to have a phone with long support and swappable parts. On the other hand, I hear so many complaints about the software and wait for major version updates that I am not enterily sure if it really is a good buy.

The price is pretty okay, a bit less than 100€ per expected usable year. This is in line with other manufacturers. Also, the biggest bull of the expenses probably comes from the way the manufacturing and materials are checked.

Is there any sense in installing a custom ROM on the phone to get rid of the software issues?

Or maybe there will be less issues this time? From what I heard some of the problems where caused by Qualcomms support windows being closed and the company actually updating everything themself. Which might be solved by using a SoC with somewhat decent support now.

Looks preety good, i think i'll have to swim to Europe to get one...

No headphone jack. I really wish they'd bring that back.

8 years support

Wow. I wonder if they have a contract with Qualcomm for that.

What's the deal with phones never having a 16:9 aspect ratio anymore?

Would be nice if any of these new parts could be used in the older phones. Is that the case?

After all the Fairphone 4 only came out less than 2 years ago.

Would be better for Fairphone to focus on some kind of upgradeable platform which is better for the environment than keep making new phones. For now I'll stick to buying second hand phones whenever mine breaks.

Is there an SD slot?

@shaked_coffee I wanted to buy the Fairphone in December, when I had to (somewhat) urgently change my phone. The fact that it's priced really high for just being repairable makes little sense. In the end, even though I did not want to stay on Nokia, I purchased a Nokia G22 and I couldn't be happier.

Smartphones technology progress is slowed down recently, but still, do you think that this phone will be usable in 8 years?

I think it's incredibly ironic that it's made in China while being marketed as ethical.

GSMarena reports displayport support in the USB.

Can anyone confirm this? The site doesn't mention it and it's a game changing feature imo.

Their phones are underpowered for the prices they charge.

Kudos on Fairphone for offering 8 years of software updates.

As an owner of FP4, my biggest gripes with the FP4 are the software updates. Bugs keep languishing for months before they are acknowledged and then months pass before the bugs are fixed. Three annoying issues with my FP4 that I deal with on a daily basis:

• Screen dimming bug. First reported in Feb and the earliest possible fix is in October. My phone is useless when I'm out and about and the level of urgency implied by FP4 for this issue baffles me.
• NFC stops working randomly
• 5 GHz hotspot was broken for months and only fixed recently

I don't care much about Android 13 as long as I get timely security patches. What I want is a bug free experience and that's something FP4 fails to deliver.

An annoying hardware decision is the SIM card can't be hot swapped. Not sure why this wasn't addressed with FP5.

Isn't GrapheneOS supported on Fairphone as well?