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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 94 points 1 month ago

Trump making the capitalist hellhole worse, does not make the capitalist hellhole acceptable. No matter if the presidents name was Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush or Reagan.

An economy that cannot provide access to basic healthcare and education for its citzens is a failed economy, no matter how high the price tags of stocks traded by coked up psychopaths are.

[-] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 93 points 1 month ago

As a foreigner I think all American presidents on my lifetime have been pieces of shit and America is a hopeless hell hole. Fucking 10 corporations in a trench coat pretending to be a government.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

This is the sanest comment.

Biden's economy was shit too, which is what made it possible for Trump to broaden his coalition so significantly.

[-] copd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Serious question,

are you too young to remember Obama or was he considered bad too?

[-] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am not going to spend the next three hours explaining how Obama and that goat fucking weasel Joe Biden as his vice president made some shady deals with the party in power of my country to start a very devious and corrupt drug war. And I am not going to tell you that I was working as a field teacher at the time of that drug war, That shit got so dangerous I had to quit my job. That said drug war fixed nothing, it only kicked the hornets nest , killed a lot of people, it painted the streets red. It moved money towards a new breed of more violent drug traffickers and blocked legislations that would make drug regulation possible. and that it wasn't just in my country; Obama was a useless hypocrite neoliberal puppet, pure scum. He had the power to make a lot of positive changes and just followed the lead of the people that were really in power in America: The corporations. I am not even very versed in American policy. I'm sure There are American people out there that paid attention at the time might have an idea of how The Obama years paved the way for the trump Era.

Americans live their lives ruled by people who would rather put their balls in a vice and set that vice on fire than to pass regulations on Corporations. Meanwhile those corporations concentrate more international power and either impose or export their corruption to the rest of the world. Your politicians are bought and paid by these conglomerates, they are your government. Your democracy is a farce, your politicians spent decades dictating to the rest of the world what civility, democracy and free market should be. And the moment those concepts are an obstacle to the concentration of power of American corporations all those wishy washy ideals go out the window. America imposed neoliberalism in Latin America. killed thousands in Chile, in El Salvador, in Brazil for their little project and now they have to gall to say the rest of the world owes them everything. What a joke all this is.

I'm sick of it. I'm sick of having dumbass American politics exported to my country. I'm sick of American culture, I'm sick of being worried of who is going to be the new dumbass on power there and who is going to be demonized by their foreign policy. I'm sick that it's a black hole that wants to privatize everything. I'm sick of Sam Altman , Elon musk, Jeff Bezos and Hillary Clinton. I'm sick of the money that flows to the media on other countries outside of America to Manufacture consent and i am sick that you can't even say "FUCK AMERICA" in social media, because you fuckers are so thin skinned you can point guns to the rest of the world and can't even take an insult!

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

There was a joke under Obama

What’s the difference between a terrorist bunker and a children’s hospital? IDK I just fly the drone

Being better than Republicans is hardly an accomplishment but I will say that he was better, I could even say he was good for an American but that shouldn’t be confused with good

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean considering the amount of people deported under his terms in office and the normalization of drone strikes he created I would say yeah, he was a bad president, not anywhere near as bad as Trump but still pretty bad. And that's before you get into him capitulating to the establishment of the Democratic party on things like Obama care getting heavily watered down and just in general losing his progressive edge as soon as he took office.

[-] 10001110101@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

I remember him recieving the Nobel Peace Prize, then escalating things, lol.

I don't know if I would classify him as a POS, but I guess the bar is pretty low here. Also dunno if he was much worse than the other post-colonial leaders of the same period.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I mean yeah if you're grading on a curve he might be more up there but if you're looking at it objectively as whether he did good or bad things I think he definitely did a lot of bad things, just like almost every president, which was the main point the comment above was making. I think we deserve better but it's gonna take a lot of fighting against corporate interests to really get there.

[-] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

I don't know if I would classify him as a POS

What does it take for you to classify a war criminal as a POS?

[-] TheseusNow@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah I really wish there was some kind of patent reform so a company can only hold a patent long enough for the work to create the innovation to be worth the pursuit of it.

Instead they will use patents to stifle innovation and stop people from being able to compete with new ideas based on an original innovation. The patent system was supposed to foster innovation, not stifle it.

Ive never seen any politician on any side do anything about the aggressive use of patents. Companies will buy out companies just for the patents. Its obviously a big issue that reworked would make it harder for a corporation to thrive without continuing to innovate and provide what the people really want or need.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah it was decided initially so that the creator could still benefit from it and recoup r&d costs before a third party could copy their design without the r&d and be able to sell the product cheaper.

But now companies just patent any idea without using them just so other companies can't.

If a company doesn't use their patent within a certain time frame it should be completely revoked.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 69 points 1 month ago

It's still Bidens economy for the next four years unless it's doing good then it becomes Trump's

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, and it was Trump's economy for the past four years because everyone knew he was going to win and everyone would be constantly winning too. Now it's Biden's economy, but wait until Trump's economy kicks into gear. You'll get so many jobs you won't know what to do with them. Unless the economy crashes again after that, then it's Biden's economy again until it recovers then it's Trump's. What's so hard to understand?

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think it's a fucking asshole for not throwing citizen Trump in a deep dark prison cell the second he stepped out of the White House.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

If Biden had any balls At.All. Trump would have been in prison Jan 7th

[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago

How was Biden to do that when he wasn't president until the 20th.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

If Biden had balls he'd have drone striked Trump and his Supreme Court appointments the day after the court gave the president immunity for executive actions.

[-] silverlose@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Right? It’s all Biden’s fault! (Jk)

[-] BoulevardBlvd 10 points 1 month ago

He's certainly not fucking innocent

[-] silverlose@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

One could argue no us president is innocent, no?

I don’t really know. I’m not American. I just find the scapegoating funny. And dumb af. Equal parts of both, really.

[-] BoulevardBlvd 1 points 1 month ago

Yes. Actually go further, anyone who doesn't argue there is no innocent US president is disingenuous or a total idiot.

Abraham Lincoln's long term solution to race relations was genocide by relocation. He wanted another trail of tears to whiten the US, there was just a pesky war in the way. Freeing the slaves was a punishment for white people, not a benefit for black people. There is no "good" US president

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

That seems like a really dangerous precedent to set.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

Anyone who bothers paying attention knew Republicans were going to fuck our economy up. They always do. But even I am shocked at how fast it's happening.

Doesn't matter. This country is too stupid to learn from mistakes. And down the ship goes.

[-] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Less shitty != not shitty

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 31 points 1 month ago

I think he should be in the Hague, personally.

[-] Ronno@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

I know what you mean, but while he's here, we could use someone like Biden to run our country. The Schoof coalition is a shit show, not really due to Schoof personally though.

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago

Bad still bad. Ignoring real poverty, homelessness and struggle because "line go up" was not good. No reason to rehabilitate an imperialist billionaire loving war criminal because his successor is arguably worse in many ways.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Greatest president during Joe's presidency. We'll sorely miss anyone who is not Trump.

[-] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

The best part about Biden's presidency was not having to read the news because the president was gonna make a huge mess the next day.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't gaslight me with some fake history.

I think genocide joe's "economy" is a huge part of why we have trump.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

My family has been paycheck to paycheck since about 2012, nothing has changed for that. I don't care about the stock market, I care about an income for the low income people like me. No president in my life time has done that.

Trump never will, Biden could have put pressure on congress and chose not to.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He wasn't great but he wasn't batshit crazy like Trump. Sure he should have pushed for universal healthcare, a universal income, taxing the rich more, etc.

The only advantage of Trump being this fucking nuts is America should swing left harder than ever in 2028. Maybe we can get some billionaires to pay their share and some awesome social services to catch with the planet. But that all depends if we even have an election.

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Your average Republican still.blames him. That's he playbook get your people to blame the left no matter what!

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ask someone to repeat the talking point of the Republicans and then ask them about the Democrats. I bet everyone knows about woke, crime immigration and so on. The Republicans run on culture wars and anger to get more interaction like social media.

[-] piefood@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago

I still hate it. Sure, the economy under Trump is worse, but that doesn't mean the economy under Biden wasn't also terrible.

[-] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I miss it, I also miss Joe Biden

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

LOL. As if MAGA weren't allergic to rationality.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

The democrats must be so giddy. They don't need to move to the left one iota as long as Trump and MAGA is fucking up this bad.

No hope. No change. Corporatist#67 for 2028!

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe he should have run for president then? Oh wait....

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

I'm glad we all seem to be on the same page about this 😄

[-] zenKodieX@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
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