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Testosterone vs. IQ (lemmy.world)

Pictured: Outlier (155 IQ, 1650 testosterone ng/dl) carries control (110 IQ, 800 testosterone ng/dl).

Submitted as comment to "What must his life be like?" in Funny@sh.itjust.works, and felt that it justified a whole meme to tie it together.

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[-] Davel23@fedia.io 68 points 2 weeks ago

Fun fact, the big guy carrying Malcolm McDowell is Dave Prowse, better known as Darth Vader.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

Ohh. I thought it was Austin Powers and maybe both variables were self-reported.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 26 points 2 weeks ago

From A Clockwork Orange for those who don't know.

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

"Try the wine."

[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it was the guy from flight of the conchords

[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Thought so, too.

"That's why they're called business socks."

[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The face of James Earl Jones! Jk, that is a fun fact I'm stealing for next time I watch a clockwork orange

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

That blew me away as a kid, realizing that the guy voicing Vader wasn't the one in the costume, and was in fact the same actor who played Thulsa Doom.

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was going to make that comment :-(

I said hello to him once.

[-] the_beber@lemm.ee 46 points 2 weeks ago
[-] smegforbrains@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago

I can't find a study that produced that result. Also a reverse image search only finds hits on meme sites and social media. Pressing X für doubt.

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

My bet is that it's paywalled like a lot of academic studies. It's likely out there, but best of luck to you nailing it down, I've been having a Hell of a time turning up worthwhile results with search engines for quite a while.

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't the title of the study on the graph?

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, you might be surprised at how few meaningful results can be gleaned even when using exact titles in search queries. I'm not even talking about the ad results that appear at the top of the page now, even Google sometimes entirely fails to provide the desired results.

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Haha I believe it. The internet was supposed to make sharing information easier. Womp

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Trying to get shit done on the 'net with a 56K modem circa 1995 vs. trying to get shit done one the 'net but everything has been purposely turned into garbage that generates ad revenue even if you pay for it circa 2025.

[-] Ymer@feddit.dk 3 points 2 weeks ago

A subset of the data seems to be readily available, if someone (with high or low T?) wants to swoop in and make us all a bit wiser:

https://dataverse.unc.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.15139%2FS3%2FZYRZ5J

[-] Min7_f43sh_j5@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

It may be a figure that someone produced independently from the publicly available data sets: https://addhealth.cpc.unc.edu/data/#public-use

[-] renzhexiangjiao 20 points 2 weeks ago

TIL there's a negative correlation

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

He has a master's degree in chemical engineering and was awarded a Fulbright scholarship to MIT, where he dropped out to act.

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not just an action movie star, he's a smart cookie.

[-] HappyFrog 9 points 2 weeks ago

I see. That's why my brain's so big.

[-] zea_64 9 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting data. I wonder what IQ test they used and mechanistically how testosterone would affect that (assuming that's a causal relationship in that direction)?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago

high iq is correlated with autism, autism is correlated with being trans, QED

i'm only like 89% joking

[-] zea_64 1 points 2 weeks ago

My friend group confirms this

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

I assume higher testosterone level means you have less patience for bullshit quiz questions that probably have little to do with assessing intelligence.

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 8 points 2 weeks ago
[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The brains will help, but you still have my support all the same, for what it's worth.

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 3 points 2 weeks ago

Certified gigachad

[-] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

The metaphor, as described in the caption, eludes me completely. Is it some sort of pun with the "carrying"? Why is the outlier carrying the control, and who benefits from it, how? Insider joke with just 1 insider?

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

No, not quite. No one benefits, and it's not an inside joke. The analogy is that the gigantic bodybuilding nerd from Clockwork Orange is the outlier, and that the control is Alex. That's it.

When I saw the original graph, I tried to think of any examples of mega-guidos that were also geniuses and remembered the scene from the movie with Dave Prowse in this role. It seemed to fit well, so I made the meme.

[-] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, got it. You had to watch Clockwork Orange to get it. Thanks for explanation!

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Good Lord, you know that you're a powerhouse of human vigour when even Montenegro takes notice and goes to the effort of granting you a war medal despite your enlistment in a foreign nation's army.

this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2025
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