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[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is everyone forgetting we have already fought one war on our northern border? Shit happens. What if Canada went nuts and elected some narcissistic tv host that wears a diaper as a leader and they formed a cult by accident and it’s members started shooting people across the border. You would want a contingency plan in place to handle that, ya know?

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

That was more than 200 years ago - 2/3 of the states didn’t exist yet - and it ended in a mostly pointless stalemate.

[-] nicktron@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is this the war of 1812 where Canada burned down your first White House? That pointless stalemate?

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They burned down the white house because they were forced to leave the city. People always act like it was some huge victory for them but they always leave out the fact that they couldn't actually hold territory in the US, and the war ended with a major US victory at New Orleans.

At the same time the US invasion of Canada failed and they couldn't hold territory there either. Obviously. That's called a stalemate.

Just a dumb point to bring up since we can all see that DC doesn't belong to the UK today. And Toronto doesn't belong to the US. So yes it was a stalemate, without the sarcastic quotation marks.

[-] flying_monkies@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

That was more than 200 years ago

Your point being what?

When your neighbors to the north call it "The Geneva Suggestions" tell me you're not going to have constant contingency plans for the day they stop saying "sorry". 😁

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

ended in a mostly pointless stalemate

They fought it to beat France, they ended up beating France. I think it's safe to say they won.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Could be a crack smoking narcissist instead... or his brother.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

I assume the US military has an invasion plan on the books for about every country on the face of the earth. They gotta spend all the trillions of dollars of black money on something.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

“Operation Waffle Garden,” US invasion of Belgium

[-] Pogbom@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Operation Waffle Stomp rolls off the tongue a bit more

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry, that was a reference to an actual WW2 operation in the Low Countries, Operation Market Garden

Fun Fact: We have a plan for fighting the whole world at the same time.

Also Fun Fact: It was considered a workable plan until China's navy was expanded.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well, not anymore since Trump probably sold everything

[-] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think my favorite part of this is looking at the Canadian and British plans for if the US invaded Canada.

Canada's plan was to pre-emptively invade the US, knowing that Canada wouldn't be able to hold the territory long-term. They would go as deep as they could before they started to fall back as slowly as possible, hoping to buy time for the UK to sail over and invade the mainland US.

The UK's plan was to abandon Canada and just let the Americans take over. Losing Canada was seen as "non-fatal" to the UK, and it was believed that sending an invasion force to fight back would hurt the UK more than if they just abandoned Canada's defense entirely.

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Damn that's fucked up. I feel bad for the Canadians reading that. Imagine fighting desperately for your independence just to have your big bro stab you in the back like that.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Like what happened to Poland in ww2 basically. The difference was that they were already fighting with their allies.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They would attack targets like New Orleans and let American infantry try to bog down in occupying Canada. They'd still invade, just with the goal of a status quo ante bellum by targeting key US ports.

[-] macrocephalic@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

To be fair, this is hardly a plan, it's just "head north to your nearest Canadian city"

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

When I drove near the Canadian border there were intersections the just had a sign with an arrow that said Canada.

So just go north and watch for the Canada signs.

[-] teft@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago

I would assume all sovereign countries would have plans like these as contingencies of contingencies. You would want a plan already made in case some coup happens in your neighboring country and they threaten your sovereignty.

[-] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Hey remember when you tried that last time and your precious Whitehouse got burnt down?

Good luck importing some English Redcoats this time, future states.

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

They didn't need to do anything, our politicians started to deepthroat theirs. Look at Definbaker, scrapped the world's most advanced jet program so the US could give us some Bulmark missiles as defense from Russia and guess what, WE NEVER GOT THEM. 1995 we sold CN Rail to an American. Fast cowards to The Harper regime, he gave the US army promission to be used in Canada if we ask for help, sold of the wheat boards assets to an American for $1 even though it was worth billions. CRA on multiple occasions have let the American company KPMG help the richest Canadians avoid taxes.

We may as well be part of America except going to a hospital won't bankrupt ya here

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Batman has a contingency plan to kill every individual in the Justice League, including himself.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I appreciate that the prairie provinces are just "Ehh, just go generally north."

Also, scary thing is, that's exactly how to do it.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

What's the source for this? Is it anything other than CCP propaganda intended to drive a wedge between the US and Canada?

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Yes, maoists in China created a detailed invasion plan for the US to invade Canada, infiltrated the US government and then had them "declassified" in 1974 in order to create a mild temporary tension between the two close knit NATO allies.

[-] CIWS-30@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, in the 1920's to boot. If B-movie (or nowadays just any movie studio) were on here, they'd take what you just wrote, add time travel to it and make it into a movie without giving you credit. And they'd probably find some way to use AI in it too.

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

The only logical reasoning in this situation lmao

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

So, you know nothing about this and just want to insult me.

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[-] BerryB1ue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

The USA had a standing policy of having a war plan ready for every contingency. I suggest looking up "War Plan Red" on wikipedia, its a good read!

Including:

Alien invasions. Including variables for infiltration and technological advantage.

Zombie outbreaks, magical or biological in nature.

Fighting a war against every nation on Earth at the same time.

All kinds of civil war scenarios.

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Lmao wut?

You have limitless information at your fingertips and you refuse to do an iota of research before jumping on "China bad"?

Fuck China, but for the love of God... literally attempt googling something next time 🤦‍♂️

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[-] EnglishMobster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] RubberDucky@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I like how people forget that almost every countries military has plans to invade/defend their neighbourhood, better to have plans ready for that time then not having any plan.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why would it be? It's always good to have contingency plans. This became even more clear in the 30s when political instability was rife everywhere. Never knew what your neighbors were going to do in a decade.

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Today all they would have to do is stand at the border and yell "We'll give you American citizenship and you can trade your $CAD for $USD at par"

I'll go fetch the white flags

[-] VitoScaletta@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

Why would they want to give up free healthcare?

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[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Fuck that noise, I don't want to be part of that shit hole of a country

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We we gonna do WHAT? HAVE WE NEVER HEARD OF THE ATTEMPTED INVASION OF MOSCOW IN WW2?

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 2 points 1 year ago

it's okay Canada had plans too

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