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[-] TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

I hate God.

  1. The concept
  • God is an outdated hypothesis presented to explain reality at a time when the scientific method didn't exist.
  • Testable variations of this hypothesis have never succeeded at proving the existence of God. Untestable variations are useless.
  • Different communities of people have weaponized the concept of God to somehow prove their moral frameworks as objective reality to impose them on others.
  • The ruling class has weaponized God to accumulate more power.
  1. The character
  • If God indeed exists, God is an asshole. If they are indeed the creator of this reality, pain and suffering exist because of them. Assuming they are all powerful, they can eliminate pain and suffering while still achieving their terminal goal behind the creation of this reality. Unless the terminal goal is causing pain and suffering itself. Both explanations point to God being an asshole.
  • Another branch of this argument can be that "God cannot eliminate pain and suffering to achieve the terminal goal, which is NOT to cause pain and suffering". This means that there are certain rules that apply to God too. Meaning, that God is not all powerful. God is just someone MORE powerful than us. We are at the mercy of God. To achieve the terminal goal, God is willing to put us through pain and suffering. God is evil. As God is bound by certain rules, and is not all powerful, a possibility exists of couping God. God must be couped.
[-] Sibshops@lemm.ee 130 points 3 weeks ago

The bottom-left one for Feminists doesn’t fit. The others are things that were created by their own group, for example, the KKK was created by Christians. That Feminist meme, on the other hand, wasn’t created by feminists but by someone else to mock them.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The number of assholes calling themselves feminists vastly outnumber the actual feminists. They have lost control of the word.

[-] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

TBF I think it'd be risky to use legit examples for that panel

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 weeks ago
[-] frezik@midwest.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

My thought exactly. Most of the "feminists" who do fit that stereotype ended up becoming Feminist Appropriating Reactionary Transphobes.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Ahahahahahaa FARTs

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Good point, pic of JK Rowling would fit there I'd say.

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[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 113 points 3 weeks ago

The best example of an asshole atheist they could find was one making a shitty anti-theist meme, meanwhile the examples of asshole Christians and Muslims are violent

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

well you can find them on social media hating on women instead. a lot of early atheist youtubers went on to become gamergaters.

or look at a popular one like Dawkins who is busy being a transphobe nowadays. imagine being an atheist and wasting the remainder of your precious and only life trying to make the precious and only life of the most marginalized people in society even worse.

or sam harris who literally defended torture.

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Still. Putting Dawkins up against the KKK is a reach.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

each of them doing what they're capable of. the kkk used to have a lot of power. dawkins is just a misogynistic, transphobic nerd. it's all circumstance. full time hating can lead to a lot of places. for bitches like him it's mostly trying to get others to do the dirty work.

[-] Firebirdie713 14 points 3 weeks ago

There are a lot of edgy athiests using all their time attacking trans people these days, because an unfortunate number of them are mainly athiests as a way to hate Muslims. And the ones taking the time to attack trans people have almost all joined the alt right, which has been responsible for a lot of attacks on innocent people.

They may not be killing in the name of atheism, but they have been in the same of "reason" and "defence of women".

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe I'm sheltered but I don't know of a single atheist attacking trans people. I'm not saying there aren't any because anyone can be an asshole but I'm not sure if it's a lot.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

I haven't seen that. Why would they need to be atheist to hate Muslims? You can do that from anywhere.

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

You can really change that to "should" instead of "can".

They literally defend a pedo prophet. I don't know how exactly they justify that, but I don't really care. I will actively hate them for this one detail and feel pretty fucking justified.

When you actively go out of your way to be terrible, you intentionally choose to be considered low class until you wake up and choose a decent path.

Just be decent. That's not a high bar to clear. Muslims and Christians fail this test. Probably a lot of others, but staying on topic of the post context here.

[-] laserm@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Mao, Kim jong un, Stalin..

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

They weren't killing in the name of atheism though

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[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 91 points 3 weeks ago

No atheist hates god. How can you hate something you don't think exists?

[-] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 32 points 3 weeks ago

The correct word would be "antitheist"

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Then you just hate theists

[-] glorkon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's as may be, but that's not the word that was used in the meme.

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[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I guess you can hate god as a concept. God can be proven to exists in human minds (no esoteric stuff, just psychology and sociology). You can hate this scientific fact and what it means for humankind.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

People hate on fictional characters all the time though.

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[-] carotte 58 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
  • actually dangerous white supremacist

  • guy in a ninja costume with a knife

  • weird meme

  • completely made up stereotype

1/4: do better next time!

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Misandrists exist, but most are harmless. Social media just does a good job of amplifying them like all outrage.

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[-] inlandempire@jlai.lu 38 points 3 weeks ago

American war propaganda poster for illustrating feminism, that's certainly a choice

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah and “we can do it,” until the men come back home and take the jobs back.

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

ITT people missing the point and projecting their own beliefs and values.

This is how people "strawman". It's easy to hate on atheists if you just see them all as their asshole members. The truth is that any group has their violent nutjobs and vocal minorities. You can't just say all Muslims are terrorists just the same as you can't say feminists are hateful crazies.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

As much as I resent religion, I do believe it's fundamentally a human problem. People everywhere have a tendency to corrupt beliefs in order to justify being assholes to one another.

[-] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

100%

That being said, dogmatic belief systems, which tend to be common in religion, seem to act as force multipliers in this regard.

[-] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah especially if such dogmatic beliefs make people think dumb or unethical stuff is somehow okay.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Terrible implementation of a decent idea, try again

There are in fact assholes of every stripe and it is good to be aware of those within your own "camps"

[-] cholesterol@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

And 'assholes' just appear at random? Nothing in these groups increases or decreases the asshole frequency? Imagine if we thought of all culture that way. Forget about progressive politics changing people's minds and thereby their behavior. "Some people are just 'assholes', what are you gonna do?"

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Assuming the probability of assholiness based on culture is how you treat cultures unequally. You fight assholiness in the individual level. You can't change a culture like that. You can only educate people and they will change their own culture.

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[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 weeks ago

The Christian one should be a missionary actually helping people. Christian faith that only exists in church is a false faith

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Prefer the Norman Rockwell version of Rosie the Riviter:

https://www.nrm.org/rosie-the-riveter/

The Norman Rockwell Museum are cowards. The photo crops out the bottom, where she's using Mein Kampf as a footstool.

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

3 of these are real examples things the people on the right did, the last is a meme made to make fun of feminists. Don't get me wrong, there's a level of feminism that goes too far, I just have yet to see an example of this in real life. There's something about women in general that makes society eager dismiss them offhand as silly and ridiculous whenever they have opinions.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

So you've never met a TERF in real life?

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[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

There are some women like that in real life actually

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[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

hi. proud asshole here. destroy all abrahamic religions for the sake of humanity.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing has done more harm than religion.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not sure I'd use Bill Nye as the example of the asshole atheist, unless that's the joke. Maybe Christopher Hitchens.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

No, it's saying Nye is a good person. He's an atheist and not an asshole.

But you do touch on something because it would be a challenge to find someone known for being atheist while also being a decent human being. IDK, maybe Daniel Dennitt?

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[-] minnow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

For the asshole, I would have gone with Dawkins

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Bill Nye kind of is a dick though.

Some people are really warm in acute person-to-person interactions, but lack the chronic empathy to spread long-term kindness. See "southern hospitality" clashing with who those areas vote for.

Others have a well-oriented moral compass but are just really abrasive in person. That's Bill Nye. I've met him and he's not like, super mean but he's got a bit of a holier-than-thou (or rather, smarter-than-you) complex.

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